Adam The God

I didn't say he needed to be a contested bull, but he needs to be able to win contests. You can't just receive at AFL level. You won't make it. And for a top 10 pick, that's too much of a gamble IMO.

Yep, IMV, Lindsay is a much more incisive and attacking kick than Salo is, who is more about maintaining possession. Lindsay sets up offensive chains. But the question marks over his contested ability is too much of a glaring weakness in his game for mine.

Jared Polec clone IMO.

Grjl could definitely play half forward. Just as Dovaston could. Both are great off the line and off the edge of the square. The more I watch of Grjl, the more excited I get. I just don't think he'll be on the board when it's our pick.

Any chance we could have some paragraphs, folks? 😄

Correct.

My understanding is that King definitely had a say in the Oliver trade, but otherwise agree mate.

I've shifted away from Lindsay. Love his kicking, but too many question marks over his ball winning ability. If Grjl is available I'd take him and Dovaston and that's a great injection of pace for a game style that is going to need it. The beauty of the game style McRae brought to Collingwood is the speed of ball movement was helped by 3 or 4 elite kickers they have, but all their speed forward of centre from the likes of McCreary and Hill was devastating. We already have Windsor and Kozzy's pace out of the middle, with Langdon's running power, Lindsay, Langford and Bowey's kicking. Pair this with an injection of pace from Dovaston and Grjl, and injuries permitting, we look very different next year, and not incapable of playing a fast, accurate slingshot game.

How about you wait until the draft is over before you make statements like this?

LJ wasn't in Cal's October 2019 top 10 and Kozzy wasn't in his top 30...

I think we'll be mid table.

Zero Hanger have us in the bottom 2 next season because of the loss of Clarry and Trac, and even McVee. I can't imagine we'll be bottom 2... Zero HangerCollingwood gun in AA contention after absence, Melbourne...An early look at some of the big tales that could unfold next year.

I think he could have an A grade ceiling at half back...

If we did this deal, it'd tell us very clearly what JT thinks of this draft crop, and potentially what he thinks about the next. When we traded out of this year's draft last year, we also would have been aware of the likelihood of Trac requesting a trade again this year (despite pizzas) and would have planned to get back into this year's first round via picks from Trac. This sort of planning would almost certainly be done.

So he's changed his stance.

As a mid or a half back? I hope you're right.

They definitely could be, but I still think we need more. I think Turner could be A grade, Kozzy is A grade, depending on how long Max stays around, he's A grade. So there's 5 guys. I hope Windsor keeps developing. I'm not sure where his ceiling is though. Max won't be around for much longer, but I'm still hopeful 2027 is a finals year for us.

I know it's dealing with the Glen Eira Council who are notoriously slow, however if the state government are involved, I would expect planning to not suffer the same hurdles as you, and thus be expedited.

Just my opinion of course...

Well, Max hopes Clarry can win a Brownlow next year. He said no such thing about Trac...

I agree. So we either go Humphrey again next year or hope we can land one with our two first rounders next year. I actually think we're two A graders short. But anyway, time will tell.

I'm not convinced there's a superstar in this draft anyway. I think we'll get two very good players from the top 10 that will make us better, but there's no Oliver 2015 or Trac 2014 in this draft that I can see. You could see them ooze class and contested ability at underage level. There's no one of that calibre this year. The club have intimated as much previously and even looking at the recruiting videos of last year's crop, there's no one that gets close to say Xavier Lindsay from this year's class.

I'd be going Dovaston, Lindsay and somehow Pickett.

He's the one I want in our forward pocket next year.

I don't get Clarry at all. I get Jarrod Berry if anything.