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Mac user? If so, you should know that Bigpond thinks all Mac users are the devil. I haven't been able to watch a Bigpond video online for about 2 years.

I'm really surprised (saddened?) at Delideo (however you spell it). He has gone backwards this year.

6. Davey 5. Bruce 4. Rivers 3. Miller 2. Jones 1. Moloney

No. I hate the little Weisel.

Our B&F by a clear mile, although Bruce might pip him for a few votes so far.

Someone's a party pooper

And just as he started to get a big of consistency!

I'm impressed with his leadership and ability to take big marks and kick big goals, but those simple goals during not-so-important times that he misses hurt his credentials. I don't think he should ever be playing from the goal square. He plays his best when he is leading along the wing.

He's a poor mans Travis Johnston. Being Travis in itself is a bit of a let down, imagine being a poor mans version of him.

So he kicked less than 18 goals? Worst draft pick ever.

I go where Melbourne goes. I really have no interest in the actual VFL competition.

I wish I only worked casual...

I'd hate to be a Richmond fan and read that. They really have drafted terribly over the past decade from what I can remember. A few good picks, but some have just been terrible. It's far too early to say if we've bettered them. We'll see in 3 years time.

I expect Watts to kick at least 10 goals per 15 minutes he is on the ground. Anything less and it will be clear that we wasted our draft pick on a hack ala. Michael Newton.

28,978 Go.

Yep. Exactly. I thought I was the only one who saw that. He's been dropping the ball too high up to be an accurate kick.

OH MY GOD Some people just don't understand the concept of rebuilding. Start this thread in 4 years if we are still last. Then it's justified. In the mean time, the OP should just [censored] in a hole and shut up.

Word.

Be ludicrous to dump them now. They seem to be improving by the week. The Roos clearly underestimated Cheney in round one and he has played solid in the next 2 round. Bennell and Jetta seem to get more confidence with every possession.

Considering my membership dollars partly pay for his salary, I have a damn right to criticise him for not performing and not appreciating his position at the club. He was never up to begin with.

No.

I doubt they'd be using the same one. Probably a proxy.

I always thought you had a bit of sense. Thanks for proving me right.

All of these complaints were probably warranted in 2007, when we had an experienced team playing under a coach that had been around for 10 seasons. Now, these complains and wingings just aren't warranted. It's annoying. We lost several experienced and leadership players last year through retirement/delisting. We replaced them with several 17-19 year olds. We had 4 debutants in round 1. Most of our best 22 are under 25 with less than 100 games experience. Do you really think there is much justification in saying there is something wrong when they are still learning to play as a team? I thought there were no excuses in 2007. or 2003. or 2001. But now, how can you just cry and winge looking for answers when the answer (singular) is right in front of your eyes? We are rebuilding. Key word. Rebuilding. Hawthorn went through it. I can tell you what's wrong with the demons right now - we aren't winning games. I can tell you what's right with the demons right now - they're rebuilding, with several promising first-year players and a superstar in waiting.

The fact is that they hadn't made the finals for 6 years and weren't prepared to risk it, draft a whole bunch of prospects and HOPE they turn out to be superstars. Even still, they would have been out of the finals still till about 2011, which would have made it 10 or whatever years since their last finals appearance. With Judd, they are a finals team within 2 years, and get rid of the risk of drafting prospects that may turn out to be nothing. So yes, I think Carlton did the right thing. We really don't know what Watts/Morton are going to become, and considering they already had 3 No. 1 draft picks, they thought that it was better to build around a superstar like Judd, instead of fill a team with No. 1 draft picks, where the risk is that they won't make the finals for another 4-5 years. I guess they were sick of losing, and if we're still in the same situation in 2012, having still not made the finals, I would trade for a superstar like Judd, instead of drafting and losing for another 4 years just to get some good draft picks.