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Every god damn year we're in the same position. Entering his prime and is being dropped. Will likely get one more year. But 2018 will be his last if he has a similar year. He needs a Stevie J circa 2007 year in 2018.

As much as I love this story, there's little chance of me supporting a Swans flag. I'd rather Richmond win. I am sick of Sydney and Geelong.

Roos tried to trade Trengove. Would have been a steal. We didn't get much out of him after that attempt. Thanking him for his service but ultimately he should have been moved on long ago.

Why? He's a contested marker. Opponents try to avoid going one on one because 99/100 he smokes them. I'd rather him keep at it.

Agreed. The more I think of the injuries this year and *who* we missed, the more I think we had a pretty solid season considering. Doesn't excuse the last game, though

In our case though it's an important statistic because we barely scored more than our opponents collectively for the entire season. If we're not scoring much but defending well then it doesn't matter. Should we have scored more or defended better against Brisbane? Either of the two leads to more percentage gain. For GC it doesn't make a difference but for a team on the verge of a finals appearance and one that missed out on percentage, it's an important statistic. Either we're not attacking well enough, or we're defending poorly.

Nah. WC was always going to beat Adelaide regardless of whether we won or lost in round 23. So either we finished 7th and played Sydney or we missed out.

I hate West Coast but gee you gotta admire that football club. And Port. Lol. You scrubs.

Let's not forget how utterly awful Richmond was last year. 8 wins. 75%. Many a belting. 12 months later they're on the verge of a GF appearance and should be second favourite behind Adelaide. There will really is no excuses for this team next year. The "We're learning" and "it's a journey" excuses are done.

The pressure is intense.

Standard Saturday night for me even during the off season...

*slap* Please don't compare Jurrah to Jako. Jurrah was fantastic. Jako was god like who regardless of the club he was at, would have had a short career.

They're not really wrong. As fate has it the whole scenario landed us Hogan in the end but Damian Barrett has proven right in that Tyson and Salem for Kelly didn't (or hasn't yet) worked out well. Sure, Salem and Tyson filled needs we desperately had to fill at the time, but I'd trade both in a heartbeat if it landed us Kelly. That Richmond game is part and parcel of the horrors that were the 2011-2014 years.

Backed them to play in the GF tbh. They'll win tonight.

Aaaaaaand now I'm depressed.

He'd have played ten years regardless but the coverage around that tackle in Australia is what got me into NFL. It's a terrible sport but I do love it.

He played arguably his best football of his career when he was in and out of the ruck, though. That's a position that demands accountability whereas a forward can go missing easily and the many variables - such as delivery - thrown up as an excuse. Imo playing him simply as a forward allows him to get too comfortable. He needs to be thrown out of his comfort zone every now and then, for his own sake to build confidence, but also for the team's sake because he can be a liability when his defender gets the better of him. Imo leaving him forward exclusively is a mistake we've made time and time again with this bloke. He's somewhat of a downhill skier and needs to be actively pushed into positions of accountability.

Before his injury he was having a career best season. I think the latter half of the season was a combination of bad player management regarding injuried, and an inability of the playing group to manage and deal with expectations. IMO he falls victim to both scenarios. He is a very tradeable asset so if the right deal comes he's definitely not "untradeable" like a Hogan or Oliver. I wouldnt seek out a trade for him but if a team inquires, I'd listen.

I can see Frost becoming a Sean Wellman type player for us.

Wow what a breakdown.

First time poster... I expect to see all of the rumours in this thread reported on SEN tomorrow.

Round 1 is probably the best scenario to appease the Pies. The first week tends to attract big crowds and so kicking it off against Collingwood would probably get 70k through the gates. Having it after QB probably limits the appeal and if one team is already knocked out of finals, it makes a 50k+ crowd tougher to get through the games. Two clashes before mid-season benefits both sides.

I work a 24/7 roster and give up extra pay on weekends to watch Melbourne. I'll be requesting Sundays every week next year. It's just not worth it. I just calculated: I missed out on close to $10k in extra salary this year.

Yeah but that doesn't really dismiss my point.

Except they weren't brought to the club in their twilight, and they weren't brought over as mentors. They all arrived as depth to what was already an exceptionally talented side. We got Cross and Lewis over for the sole purpose of providing leadership. Which is my point about it saying a lot about the experienced leaders already at the club.