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yeah, I get that point. The point I was making, perhaps obscurely, is that that is no reason to discount what Lyon said as meaningless. Of course, we won't know till we know, but I'd much prefer Lyon to say what he said than echo Morris et al.

umm, you might have cared more if Lyon had made a 'rational critique' on why both of them were leaving. What I mean is that you have to give some weight to him making comments which pleases Demonland.

I wonder how many times you've thought 'he shouldn't be playing' and the player came back on OK and you forgot all about it. Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Pleased to see someone pushing MFCSS to new heights.😀

How can you conclude'something is not right' (presumably meaning club culture or whatever) when of your 7 points only a couple or maybe only one is meaningful: 4 finals losses (you concede it happens, and there were plenty of reasons beyond our control) Gus wasn't knocked into next year by the MFC ANB has made it crystal clear why he is leaving has nothing to do with the club JV rumours ? Did you listen to his post match interview - would have knocked any rumours dead to anyone listening without panic in their heads. Then there is Smith and who knows what happened there and it probably is personal and has little to with club. So that leaves just the currrent Petracca issue which may be more due to him rather than the club. We don't know. The sky is falling

We all know?! All I know is that: 1. at the ground our docs didn't know how serious it was, 2. at first the hosptial with all its equipment had the same impression 3. It was only a second lot of scans/tests at the hospital that found serious issues. How is that 'badly mishandled' by the club? If Tracc's family think that they need to reconsider. (I could be ruder, but won't given they were probably traumatised at the time. But to still believe it and use is as an excuse for whatever...?)

I keep clear of footy journalism so I am totally in the dark about Morris. If Tracc's managers are leaking, why are they leaking to only Morris? What's in it for them to give him exclusives?

What was that post about?

Pathetic These so called journos are not real journalists

If as implied the statement was put out before the docs actually knew what was wrong at the hospital (or had yet to convey the bad news to the MFC, which would hardly be a priority for the hospital) then the family needed to have a rethink when they are less emotional. They must by now know that at the ground the seriousness of the injury was unknown, nor did they get it right initially at the hospital?

I agree that if bumping (footy act with due care, not thuggery) is allowed then it is unfair that the punishment should depend on the outcome (though if you look at the law generally, this is common). The resolution of this will be the total ban on bumping. That will make gentle shepherding another realm for the umpires and MRO to be confused about.

As to his lack of travel - maybe he has critical medical appointments - who knows. But I agree his lack of congratulating the team on the win is a bad sign. But would it actually go down well with any team he might be hoping to join? Might be more going on than any of us knows.

or he might have medical appointments. Too much reading of tea leaves on here.

I'm amazed that anyone could infer that from the question he was asked (Going?) and his immediate reply (Nah!) followed by the 'sort this out at end of year' type remark. If that wasn't him realising that you have to keep balls in the air during contract talks I'm the proverbial monkey's uncle. Of course, pessimists will say it's a double bluff to fool fan boys like me....

Are you joking? Initial response was an enthusiastic YEAH. Followed by a vague remark that read to me as “holy [censored]. My manager will be [censored] off my saying that in contract talks”. Sorry, I got that the wrong way around. He was asked "you're not going anywhere?" and replied Nah enthusiastically. Some people seem deermined to read the worst into everything.

I guess playing for C'wood reduces the chances of bad and career ending injuries.

Probably true. Still astounding that there has been no media focus on this. Premiers in 2023, out in zero sets in 2024.

I'm waiting for the pile on in the media.......

I may have missed it. But is that about Houston just a rumour / speculation or is there any real evidence?

No body can deny??!! Of course they can until Trac says it. but the thread title is saved by having a question mark. But it does reek of click bait.

Geez, cut him a bit of slack. He doesn't get pinged that often for throws and other players are equally 'quick', some get pinged more than others. Yes, he gets paid a lot, but so what. A lot of the defense of Clarry has been justified and objective - you don't have a monopoly. Sure there are some posters who are what you call apologists. And then there are some who are the reverse - always keen to see that dark side and put the boot in. Doesn't make you balanced or right. The suggestion that part of the reason for 1 flag in 60 years is because of sycophantic supporters is laughable. When are we storming the club HQ? Should I send the President the ashes of my microwaved membership card? You like to show how tough and uncomprimising you are - as if that has any effect on what the club does any more than those who wear rose-coloured glasses do. At least the latter group are happy.

And you are across all the medical issues? No plate needed for 14 weeks in your medical bag?

It does if despite all he drawbacks he is doing as well as the average player. Have you watched a Casey match this year?

Why are some here so confident that the leak was from some MFC ne'er-do-well? Where is the evidence? (beyond some people always thinking the worst of the club)? Could have come from anywhere between Melbourne and South Australia.

1. We had no one better and until last week were still in with a chance of finals 2. Some say for his mental health. They may be right.