IvanBartul13

13 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

Thanks - so presumably, we are going to see a list come out of the players nominated as NGAs. 

There should be one, but thats the thing, theres never been a list come out in years past that I can remember.

20 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

Got that @IvanBartul13 but I notice that  Collingwood announced the other day that it has opted against nominating one of its NGA prospects Youseph Dib for priority access at the draft. Was that just to let the football world know that they could freely select him in the knowledge that their bid wouldn’t be matched?

NGA players go from being NGA players to Qualfied NGA players in their draft year (draftable and matchable). Thats always been just a standard process done by clubs and the AFL during the year and is the NGA lists that pop up on the AFL website and the like through the year.  I thought it was basically an automatic process in the draft year that they become that then, at the draft, clubs bid and the players Academy club can match with points or they choose not to.

 Collingwood have no category b rookie spots so they cant rookie him automatically if he falls through the draft as a category B and they obviously dont want to take him In the national draft.  Either they are just announcing it for the player’s emotional benefit,  for the smoother running of the draft or there is now a a more specific nomination process closer to the draft.  But i thought NGA players were essentially automatically tied to their home clubs (match bids notwithstanding) unlike father sons who both player and club have to submit agreement paperwork to the AFL prior to the draft almost like a trade, as per Taj Woewodin.  NGA players agree to be tied to club when they join the academy.

Re Dib they could still draft him in the normal rookie draft, but its the first time an announcement of this type has been made, maybe the AFL has a new rule where clubs have to specifically announce and lock in the NGA players they intend to draft  but that hasnt been the case previously.  Its possible the journos have found out  or been told that Dib bid wont be matched and their article suggests there’s an official process that doesnt exist.  Not 100% sure.

Edit:  Actually i am wrong and there is a nomination process, was Friday, and its just newsworthy they havent nommed him.

3 hours ago, Turner said:

i believe there's another list deadline which is for rookie only nominations? what the crows did last year with luke edwards before the eagles stepped in

There is no rookie nominating before the National draft.  Clubs can list their nominated father-son or NGA players as rookies for free after the National Draft and before the rookie draft if obviously they are passed over initially.   Adelaide declined to nominate Luke Edwards as a father-son altogether so he was fair game last year in the ND.  Gold Coast were able to Prelist their Zone selections as Rookies last year.

16 hours ago, spirit of norm smith said:

I couldn’t find such content in my history of posts to reference “Matt Roberts unlikely to be drafted” .  
perhaps the context was that he wasn’t even eligible for the 2020 draft.  Perhaps that helps !! The comparison to Heppell stands and he will be drafted in 2021 draft. @IvanBartul13 Please give your assessment.  Also happy to hear your views on other players for critique! 

My assessmement is the quote attached above and the discussion in the Rhyan Mansell thread are compelling in regards to what you thought of Roberts last year.  Now all of a sudden that he is in some phantoms, you have latched on to him.  Im still waiting for your help in accessing the WAFL colts tapes - or how to.

5 hours ago, Turner said:

tbf got the lachie mcneil call bang on so credit there

ThanksTurner, if you could provide a full report on his prognostications of last year that would be awesome.  

1 hour ago, spirit of norm smith said:

??? Source ???

Found it...sorry for the delay, had to trawl through the Melbourne should Draft Zavier Maher, Eddie Ford and Isiah Winder with our first rounder content.

On 10/17/2021 at 9:44 AM, spirit of norm smith said:

Matt Roberts reminds me of Dyson Heppell.  He’s a midfielder but also an all rounder type.  Certainly talented and wouldn’t be a poor choice.  I thought Power would be his new home given they need to restock their midfield.  Not sure he’s what MFC would pick but given he’s been top 10 quality, if he was a slider then JT would have to consider.  I think we may hope for a Goater, Sinn or Sonsie if they slide through.   I think all will be gone imv and would be looking at Chesser or Wilmot for outside run and pace across wing/half back. 

Last year you said Roberts wasnt draft quality? 

3 hours ago, Redleg said:

I seem to be on my own on recruiting Brander, who we would get for basically nothing. He would come at a low salary and for probably as low a pick as there is. His manager is suggesting he might become a DFA and that is a free swing.

Seems like the other clubs don't rate him.

I would rather him than M. Brown or Baker for that matter but that bird has flown.

 

He plays like he is scared is the reason, and the market for receivers with no x-factor is very small.  There’s a game where he costs the Eagles three goals by not being unconditional at the contest.  And hes never shown contested marking ability of any not to be a genuine KPP!

8 minutes ago, olisik said:

I don’t get this point system as technically don’t we have an infinite amount of picks if our list allows us? Eg let’s say all teams pass in the 90s. That then gives us pick 91,92,93,94 and so on for points does if not? Or our round 8,9,10,11 picks

You only have picks that correspond to vacant list spots and, in any case, picks in the 90s bave no points

2 hours ago, Whispering_Jack said:

JT. Please draft SA’s Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera.

I was of the belief ex North small Eddie Sainsbury was his biological father, leaving open the possibility of a triple barrelled name!!!

6. Christian Petracca

5: Clayton Oliver

4. Christian Salem

3. Bayley Fritsch

2. Max Gawn

1. Angus Brayshaw

6. Max Gawn

5. Christian Petracca

4. Jack Viney

3. Christian Salem

2. Clayton Oliver

1. Kysaiah Kropinyeri-Pickett

On 8/29/2021 at 11:54 AM, Mel Bourne said:

People omitting Langdon and Lever is somewhat mystifying. 
 

Still, a good sign that we have a real spread of contributors. 

Oliver played a 9/10 game in my opinion and there were probably eight players who played 8/ or 8.5/10 games, very difficult splitting up the votegetters many weeks

6. Clayton Oliver

5. Christian Petracca

4. Jack Viney

3. Alex Neal-Bullen

2. Max Gawn

1. Angus Brayshsw

6. Max Gawn

5. Clayton Oliver (probably BOG)

4. Jake Lever

3. Christian Salem

2. Jack Viney

1. James Harmes

6. Bayley Fritsch

5. Christian Salem

4. Luke Jackson

3. Christian Petracca

2. Harrison Petty

1. Ed Langdon

6. Alex Neal-Bullen

5. James Harmes

4. Christian Petracca

3. Clayton Oliver

2. Luke Jackson

1. Ben Brown

6. Clayton Oliver

5. Christian Petracca

4. Luke Jackson

3. Max Gawn

2. Ben Brown

1. Alex Neal-Bullen

6. Clayton Oliver

5. Max Gawn

4. Jake Lever

3. Christian Petracca

2. Jack Viney

1. Jayden Hunt

6. Clayton Oliver

5. Christian Petracca

4. Jake Lever

3. Jayden Hunt

2. Charlie Spargo

1. Bayley Fritsch

5 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

 

He's the second worst judge in the industry

A brutal task - many deserving

6. Christian Petracca

5. Clayton Oliver

4. Steven May

3. Max Gawn

2. Christian Salem

1. Tom McDonald

Its an absolute travesty that I don't give votes to Hibberd who was enormous on Rozee, to Petty who played his best game and Pickett who played his role as well as you can pretty much.  The substance of our A graders was too much for them to overcome, as it was for the Power!

On 7/3/2021 at 1:42 PM, spirit of norm smith said:

I heard Mac Andrew has discipline issues.  I heard he has anger issues. I heard he has a drinking problem.  Is that enough to create the “don’t draft him Jack darling” stigma !! 

Perhaps you could just say we should take him as a 1st round pick candidate and that will be enough to see him slide, a la Winder, Ford and Maher!

3 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Really? Why do you say that? (Serious question.)

I would have thought that Demetriou would win the "most disliked" prize.

He has done more to destroy the spirit and essence of the game of Aussie Rules football than anyone in its history, sidestepping what should be checks and balances against such behaviour.  He is widely despised!

55 minutes ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

Sorry. Missing some punctuation. That should read another S. Hocking decision. 

It has been announced that Steve Hocking has accepted appointment as Geelong's new CEO. It will be interesting to see how his time at AFL HQ will be remembered. Overall, I think he's been a positive, but that's not to say I agree with everything he's done.

Quite comfortably the worst and most disliked official in AFL history I would imagine.