Johnny Karate

Interesting comparison of CHF's L.Dunn games 10, goals 13 B.Miller games 69, goals 21

His attitude wont be as disappointing as yours.

Blankets and alcohol abuse. Understand what you're saying but I took the "Who'd you rather have in the team?" question from the thread title and put forward my opinion that they can both play a role in our best 22. FWIW: If ranking the list from best player to worst Miller would be ahead of Dunn. What I took issue with were the 'is and always will be soft' comments from the thread starter on Dunn who is 19 and in his 2nd year. The crux of his argument was that Dunn is too soft but Miller isn't exactly a man of steel.

Stupid poll it's apples and oranges. Who would you rather have in the team Clint Bartram or Matt Whelan? Who would you rather have in the team Carroll or Rivers? Sure you might have some higher up in the pecking order but it doesn't mean they all wouldn't have a place in the best 22. Lynden is 19 and has had a good 'first' year. Miller has had his worst season however that doesn't mean he is useless. Methinks this was just a stunt for the original thread starter to start bandying about the cliche` "soft" to fool others into thinking they are some kind of objective luminary when judging teenage footballers rather than giving them deserved support until they have time to establish themselves with the big boys.

Why when "deviding" your list of players to be scrutinised did you not take into account that all 1st year draftees have a two year contract? Regardless of whether they are "guarenteed" a senior spot.

So you want to axe Neville & Buckley 1st year draftees? Forgive me if I find your logic confusing.....

I would personally burn down the MCG if we get rid of the Juice or trade Fergy for Leigh Harding!

BELL............Can be a liability through lack of awareness when under pressure? Probably keep to develop. Keep. BIZZELL.......Has been surpassed by C Johnson/Rivers/Miller. Trade for 60+ pick! Gone. Not gone. Is contracted for 07 and what club with any clue would trade anything for an over 30 fringe player BUCKLEY.....?.To me an unknown so is not a locked in keeper? Possibly keep. 1st year. Ridiculous suggestion MOTLOP........IMO his soft efforts thru the season appear demoralising to teamates. Gone. Harsh re. "soft efforts" but is probably gone NEVILLE.......?.To me an unknown so is not a locked in keeper? Possibly keep. See BUCKLEY. NICHOLSON..Can be a liability through lack of agility & speed. Trade to Blues or Hawks for 3rnd pick! Gone. Why would Carlton want any more average KPD when they have Saddington and co? What club in what is purportedly the deepest draft in history give up a 3rd rounder for a plodder with 3-4 years left in him when they could get at the very least a player of equal potential with double the life span? If he is cut loose will probably go into the PSD REID............We need space on the list, trade. Noone would trade for Read see Nicho! SMITH..........Could be in trouble, is really a tall F-pkt. Backup if Neitz or White were badly injured. 50/50 wouldn't carry much trade value if he were to be off loaded pick 50 would probably be the best that we could hope for WHEATLEY....In competition with C Johnson/Rivers/Miller/Bell/Yze/Green. Possible trade bait? ????????????? Trade bait for pick 40? Is good depth should keep. Suprised not to see Godfrey's name on the list OR has he finally turned the corner?