Nasher

5 clubs not represented: Melbourne, GWS, Port, Bulldogs, Brisbane.

WHY AREN'T ANY MELBOURNE PLAYERS IN TH....oh.

If Magner finishes in the top 10 I'll <insert idle threat here>. I reckon he's hanging on by the skin of his teeth for a second year on the rookie list.

Presumably Liam will remember to nominate for the ND this time

The "Moloney made Cook cry" is a complete myth that has been falsly perpetuated based on the misconstrued observations of one guy from the opposite side of the ground, two years ago. I really wish we'd stop saying this bullsheet as if it is indisputable fact. If you read the report that this all stemmed from, it was Troy Davis that Moloney abused and spat at for a start. That's hardly what I'd call commendable leadership.

Great post binman, your view mirrors mine almost 100%.

Another free agent, I'm hoping. If not, I'm not familiar with the formula so I don't know. (What a cop out Nasher! Booo! You suck!)

What makes you say we're losing him for nothing? FA = compensation.

I bloody hope not. Can't someone keep their first number and build some damn history in it for once? 38 is Jeremy Howe.

Really? We've got no answer for Cotchin, but other than he, Riewoldt and Martin, I think the Richmond list looks bog ordinary.

If you like, bb, but I'm not annoyed. And as time is passing, the disappointment is passing and the relief is kicking in. The last two (pre-)seasons have been filled with horrible distractions - Scully, Jurrah, EnergyWatch, all this shite. In my mind this was destined to be another one with the Jurrah court case looming. As I said, I held out no hope that there was a good outcome for the MFC for this anyway - worst case he went to jail, best case he joined the club already well in to the season post trial, and how long though till the next family disaster? For me, this is a burden lifted. In 2013, we might actually get to focus on footy first for the first time in a couple of years. I bloody hope so, anyway.

It's a conspiracy theory, Rover. It's you believing the worst possible scenario of betrayal as usual. Have you been hurt a lot by people in your life? I would be absolutely livid if Jurrah went to Collingwood. If that happens I'd feel genuinely burnt. I don't believe that will happen, though. (I believe in Liam?)

I just feel like it's one thing we don't have to spend 6 months worrying about now. I'd all but given up hope of a good outcome anyway - I saw it as a long and drawn out car crash still in the process of happening for our club.

Am I the only one who feels a sense of relief along with the disappointment?

http://demonland.com...t-moloney-gone/

Trengove will be where you've got McDonald. Despite the outrageously over the top criticism of him around these parts, he's had a good year and the FD are big fans of his. Other than that I agree, and I struggled to come up with any more names as well. Jones will win for mine, but I don't know what order the other 4 will be in. As good as Clark was I'd be surprised if he was in the top 3 after missing such a large amount of the season.

What what? *looks confusedly around the room*

You've taken such an extreme anti-excuse position that you're no longer able to distinguish between a reason and an excuse. Discuss.

Why would Fremantle approach him?

Freo managed to work out that he might move if the right buttons were pressed and guess what? They circumvented his manager. No doubt it's a bit dirty - though Ross could just have easily "talk to my manager", but if the opportunity was there then you'd hope we'd have at least explored it. Even if Ross had told us to take a long walk off a short pier, the fact that Freo got him is indication that we should've at least put the feelers out. Clearly we didn't.

Bugger. Casey don't have a great finals record despite finishing in the upper echelons of the ladder regularly. Let's hope they can get up next week.

Just like Collingwood were forced to keep Josh Fraser, Brisbane fought tooth and nail to keep Jared Brennan, and we couldn't bear to part with Travis Johnstone.

Only because the chain of posts it referenced got the flick. Your line was bloody hilarious.

Coping mechanism. I'm the same, but I'm assuming I'm going to feel something again when we start winning. I was on a huge high after the Essendon game - this is just proof to me that the passion isn't dead, it's just dormant. Would love to know what timD thinks about this.

Why wasn't it an Atley/Cook decision? Or a Howe/Cook decision? Yeah yeah, I know. Wasting my time.