Nasher

Fixed... again. This was caused by a twice failed software upgrade. Will get to the bottom of it tonight.

Give it a razz now.

Can't believe we've gone this far in to the thread without some inane comment about only recruiting choir boys and getting excited about what "mongrel" this guy would add. Anyway, I wouldn't bother recruiting him full stop, even with all the caveats Robbie has listed above. It would just be a complete waste of time and resources trying to keep a guy like him on a straight path, then you've got the worry of his influence over other young players, and it would be a case of when, not if he eventually stuffs up. I'd rather we found another Jordie McKenzie in the rookie draft - a modestly talented kid who would give his left nut to play AFL football and plays and trains accordingly.

Magner was welcome to nominate for the ND if he was upset about his treatment. I highly doubt that is how he sees it, though. He's still on the list and still has the opportunity to prove himself. If he makes it or not it'll depend completely on whether he's good enough, it'll have nothing to do with how many other 25 year olds from the VFL are on the list.

Bumping this thread while we were all in the middle of us all slapping each other on the back from the draft - nice one. I'm currently parading with umbrella in hand to stop from being hit by all the wee.

They were reasonable with us this year because it was in their interests to do so, but nonetheless I agree that from the perspective of parties I'd be willing to deal with, they look a lot better now than they did last year.

I'm probably alone, but I don't like this. Let the man make his own history in his own jumper number. 16 was Jack Grimes, in my mind.

FWIW I'm not a fan of mega-threads either and it's especially bad if you're using the mobile skin because you can't easily paginate on that skin. I also find the site is slower on my phone than it is on the PC, and that's in general not just when it's under siege (which it was tonight, users online record broken by a lot - the site's never in its whole history been hammered as hard as it was tonight). I don't know that having a million threads on the same topic is better though, which is what happens. I might have a look at the mobile skin at some point and see if I can improve the pagination on it. To answer your questions - I doubt the club was surprised that Toumpas was available, there have been rumours circulating in the last week that this would happen. GWS even took the players a few people mentioned they would. Also, the rumours that we were taking Wines were just hype built up by the media and footy supporters, I wouldn't assume them to be fact. In the end we'll never know who we would've taken if Toumpas was gone. The roar was because he had an army of family present at the draft. And there's an article on the MFC website where he explains his excitement: Jimmy over the moon at joining Dees Some snippets: "To be given an opportunity by the Dees is unbelievable. They have shown faith in me to Draft me … so it means a hell of a lot. I grew up playing for Lockleys Demons, so I had this [red and blue] guernsey on as a youngster at my home club in SA. The history of the club, being the first club, [which] invented the game - it’s a huge honour.” He was ecstatic that we picked him up. I seriously love this kid already.

That he was a kid who didn't have the maturity to cope with the rigours of AFL football at the time. Or he's a spud. It'll be one of those two, but I'd like to think that since he's only been on the list for an hour, we'll give him some benefit of the doubt initially...

Ah, right. It ceased to exist (89 became 88) because our list is full. You only get the luxury of passing if you still have an empty spot to pass on.

Screw that. I'm getting excited now. If I'm disappointed in two years time then so be it - I don't expect that I will be though.

If the AFL draft tracker is any indication, they wasted no time in calling out his name either. There was zero pause time for any of our picks actually. The club knew who it wanted and picked without hesitation. Frankly, with the amount of preparation that goes in to the draft these days, I'm surprised that isn't true for all the clubs.

I thought the answer to your question was obvious, I'm sorry if that offends you.

Because we knew who we wanted in advance and the player we wanted was still there?

We traded it for Rodan and our list was full by then anyway.

Yes that's correct. No vacancies.

Two grownups with our last two picks. Jones is 25 and Terlich 23 (or will be by the time the season starts). I'd say the strategy there is fairly obvious.

He's 25, from Box Hill evidently. Plenty of VFL watchers including yourself Jack, I thought you could tell us about him!

We've taken Dean Kent. Seemed to happen in an instant. Never heard of him, but I also don't pay very close attention at all.

West Coast about to make their first pick at 45. Wowser. I doubt I'd even bother paying any attention if that were us, though there are still some good players left by the looks of it.

That's just the high talking - it was clever and I laughed but it wasn't even DA's best post ever, let alone _the_ best post ever!

Menzel went to Carlton at 11.

Anyone on 'land ever been through the drafting process? It'd be horrific I reckon. Tomorrow you could be packing your bags to move to the other side of the country, or drowning your sorrows. It must be tough.

Collingwood grab Grundy at 18 and Ben Kennedy at 19. Making like bandits.

Group hug?