Nasher

*looks at watch* 5pm. Gah.

Haha, obviously there still will be, but it won't be *all* there is. We seem to be being inundated with this carp.

Jeez I'm looking forward to when the opinions dry up and the football starts.

Yep, this. This is the attitude previous forums I have experienced use too. And it's amazing how the more experienced you get, the less sensitive you get to complaints about hard moderating styles. "You don't think I should have deleted that post? Well I did. Oh well". "Oh, you posted it again after I deleted it? I deleted it again, and banned you for making me waste my time deleting it twice. Oh well."

Pfft, do they even Allen Jakovich?

Heart *ache*, as in a dull, lingering pain. They're the ones that will drive players to improve. They will still be seething in the back of their minds now. I reckon he's right that this is the first time most of the players will have spent months stewing on a result. As opposed to the intense, short lived pain one would expect after losing a game to North.

Dramatic headline! It's not ideal but a move from round 2 to round 4 is hardly the worst possible outcome for an injury like this to a player of Viney's importance.

If it was the granny, you'd probably hear me vomiting from nerves - and believe me you'd definitely hear it.

I was expecting a feature article on Fritsch, and what I read was a bunch of dribble about the Watts trade with a few anecdotes about Fritsch. The quality of journalism in the AFL is pus.

I reckon I only knew he was delisted because he was making a few noises in the media about how he thought Melbourne could be a good fit, and I remember thinking "oh god, please no". Turns out Goody and co agreed with me.

I had no idea Crameri was even on their list.

It's not breaking news that Watts is a good player who can really turn it on from time to time. That never was, and never will be the issue.

But that's precisely the problem, WYL - most Tasmanians *do* already follow a Victorian side, so either our own side will dilute the support for the existing sides, or nobody will follow it.

Yes, no and no. As the research continues to come in on the effects of concussion, the AFL will want to be seen to doing something. The something it does might not initially be the right something, but it can't be seen to be doing nothing, and won't reverse the changes it makes even once shown to be ineffective. Expect Gus will always wear the helmet. The psychological benefit for him will become entrenched and he will see no benefit in attempting to wean off it (and nor do I).

You just listed last year's eight and those that narrowly missed as this year's eight. Really going out on a limb there.

Please don't present speculation as fact, as you did in your previous post. You would be surprised at how quickly garbage can get traction in the cesspit of the football media.

The Granny is the first look I've had because life, but I don't mind it (and not just because Melbourne are in it). Don't know what all the sooking has been about, people are just afraid of things that are a little bit different.

He's the club's entertainer. He talks easily, has a relaxed manner (compare this to Burgs, for example), and has an easily recognisable face to Demon supporters. I've always thought the club could do better if they got a trained, experienced media pro to help him prepare for his interviews because he'd often ask the players stupid questions, so I've got absolutely no problem with him referring to a notebook during interviews. Don't agree with your view, but don't think you deserved all the flippant replies you got either.

You must be new here.

No, I'm not. I was addressing a point someone made about how the club response should vary depending on who the player is. The penalty should vary depending on the gravity and veracity of the allegation.

What? Hell no. The club's position should not vary depending on how good the player is. The club has a difficult decision to make. If facts come to light that suggest the player is in real trouble, he should be sacked immediately, or at the very least, stood down. If it's one of our better players, tough luck. The club simply cannot be seen to overlook an alleged sexual assault just because the accused is good at footy. That's exactly the kind of societal attitude that needs stamping it. It doesn't matter who you are or what your status is: it just isn't acceptable.

It's like whack-a-mole with you lot sometimes. Delete one post as another three appear.

Buck, this is just as much an over-analysis of the situation as those who see it delivering fire and brimstone. It's not going to be the making of great things, it's just a group of adult men exercising their right to abstain from something they think is going to be detrimental to their health.

This strikes me as the kind of thing that will have miffed the coach in the short term but will have been long forgotten by the time January rolls around. The part to me that seems non-ideal is that the players were notified so late, so it was left until the last minute to be dealt with, but it's only a small quibble in the scheme of things. There's room for improvement in the communication between the coaching and playing groups. Panning the players or the club seems unnecessary. Projecting it in to a Neeld like rift between the coaches and players is absurd.

This sounds like a headline directly out of the Betoota Advocate. Footy Player Says New Club Better Than Old Club That Spurned Him.