Dappa Dan

The surprise packet one will be interesting. I don't think you can count teams like GWS and Crows as surprises. So I went with Pies outside the 8. Should have done better this year, and have the midfield grunt to win more games than it loses.

I read a stat somewhere that can't be right. Something like 60% winning away percentage for all teams.

Zeke reinstated. lol

Oh man I forgot. I was on the countdown a week ago, and it slipped my mind. Well done NFL fans, and Macca for the tipping comp that's responsible for about 170 of the 200. And yeah, I'm not saying it's all rosy. I just think wait and see. Funny things happen when the seconds come in sometimes. This is the first time in ever that Nelson, Adams, Ha Ha, and all their other good players can feel like the most important player on the team.

Sure has. But he's a trenches coach. Always has been. Get the big uglies organised and the rest will follow. Only problem with that is there's a reason he's never won a big one despite being successful. Back on Hundley, I look at a guy like Watson as a good marker. Doesn't play anything like the QBs that were starters ahead of him, but the coach adapted quickly. His line isn't anything to write home about, but he gets the job done. And I don't think it's right to say that Texas' receivers are better than GBs. Aside from Hopkins, they're not superstars. Where it falls down is that they have a pretty damn good run game with Foreman and Miller. I'm interested to see what GB do with Monty, who's shown plenty over the last couple of seasons, and Jones who's performed well in patches. The Giants lost 5 in a row, then decide to lean on the run game with a couple of duds... and look what happened there. It's all on McCarthy now as you say. Here's another fun stat. Since 1992 (??!!) Green Bay have played 9 games with a quarterback not named Favre or Rodgers. That's insane. Just imagine how many QBs Browns have had in that time.

Yeah he is, Jack. And TBH that's is the most important thing here. He's a good young man who will go on to better success... as he was stagnating at MFC. People lose sight of that part. In terms of list structure etc... we have a short-middle future here that is massively important. Jack wasn't a part of that. He had the opportunity to be, but wasn't. Pumped for 2018.

Fair enough. ie the Scott brothers. And yeah. On the plus side Hundley's been there, what, 3 years? McCarthy at least knows his man. And his man knows the playbook. Romo would have been terrific fun... but Hundley is your best chance.

This is Goodwin and Viney's club now. Couldn't be happier. Picks Shmicks. We got the biggest fish available in trade time. Only really disappointing thing is that we lost next year's first rounder. But we'll still come out ahead with Lever. The kid is unbelievable. Watts time was done, it's that simple. We have things to achieve as a club and Watts wasn't going to help us. Onwards and upwards. Well done dees on having the gumption to make an unpopular choice. We're locked and loaded for the next 3 years.

I'm really interested to see what changes. I reckon your Displeasure at McCarthy will double if he rolls out the same system for what is essentially a completely different player. This sort of thing can be a great opportunity for growth. Imagine if, in the next 10 weeks, Hundley throws for 20TDs and 10Int and authors some good wins and gets his team to the playoffs. He'll find himself straight away into a starting job next year for someone, and you'll have a juicy new second round pick to get that Tight End you want so badly.

Everyone's worried about what it'll be like when the D start dominating. But the real news is that the offense and Goff/Gurley/McVay have created the buzz. Get used to it for the next 12-15 games. I love watching Rams right now, but don't get me wrong, I want Eagles to beat them. I keep secretly hoping pressure on Goff will make him wobble a bit, but he's getting it out so fast. Looking forward to 7 weeks from now... How has Rams OL been? Them vs Eagles DL...

McCarthy = Scott... lol So true. I had it as Falcons Dallas and Packers, throw a blanket over them. Seattle just a notch back. Now there's something like 8 teams and you can't confidently pick any. Super exciting. It's interesting with Rodgers. They did go out and get (the other) Rodgers, and Cook last year. I remember a lot was said about how many TEs he had as pass catchers... but you're right... None are known blockers who do amazing work in that regard. They also lost their tackles this season... so the OL has been disrupted. I reckon as an opposition supporter, the thing you're scared of most with Rodgers is when he scrambles laterally and throws on the run. In my time following the game, certainly noone has done it better. But yeah, I think I see your point. I'm getting it a bit with Wentz now. He moves great out of trouble, and gets 30-50 rushing yards a game often. That extra weapon is great when it works, but you're always fearful he's a few games away from being injured. I reckon in their early days, every NFL fan watches a read option QB and thinks they're what you want as a QB... then after a few seasons following an injured guy, you realise how great it is to watch a pure pocket passer like Manning or Brady. When you look at Rodgers, yes he's great on the move, but he's great in a clean pocket too. I reckon you see them go heavily for OL in the next couple of years as he reaches his late thirties.

I knew it was too good to be true, everyone picking both Pats and Pack. If there's one thing demonland NFL tipping has taught us is that if it's a sure thing, it probably won't happen. It would have been a perfect weekend had Skins lost to 49ers. And they very nearly did.

Yeah I see what you mean. I have Max Gawn in my head. If you predict an injury like that for, say, Eli... then you put him in cotton wool and see what your kids have got, given they're not going to the playoffs. But Rodgers? At 50%... You'd give it a go if you did your due diligence. Of course a lot depends on how Hundley/Romo go. lol

Yeah. And it was still almost mid game when they made that call.

Yeah? Do you mean because he likes to get Rodgers throwing on the move more than lots of coaches? Doesn't recruit good protection for him? I was watching the game when it happened. Did you see him getting carted off? I was really surprised to see the injury news a few hours later because he supported his own weight with both hands when he sat on the back of the cart. Seemed to me to be not too painful? Mind you, the painkillers might have just kicked in. I'm not gonna act like I'm not pleased that when the Eagles play them, Rodgers won't be there. And likewise I'm not gonna act like it's extraordinarily lucky that Rodgers was fit to play Dallas, thereby making life easier for my team. But the comp is poorer for him not being out there. Tuning in to see them play will be really interesting... seeing how everyone adapts... but let's call a spade a spade. 2017 NFL just got a little bit crapper.

Understood completely. I really think once the offense gets used to Hundley's completely different style of play, they might do ok. The Tackles are getting healthy, The D still does more good things than bad generally. They've got Lambeau. And their receivers can go toe to toe with anyone. And they haven't ruled out Rodgers for playoffs yet. All they have to do is get there. It's a bit like the Colts. They're all doom and gloom early in the year, then they win a few and suddenly they're desperate to get Luck back on the field, because they can potentially make a playoff run if he's there. But yeah. I mean it's Rodgers. You can be forgiven for packing it in, so to speak. He's like a cheat code.

Whoa?!!! That escalated quickly? I wasn't lecturing anyone? Was just genuinely asking? I mean, [censored]. My team's backup is Foles. I'd take Hundley in a heartbeat over him. Relax Macca. Noone's lecturing anyone. Jeez. You'd think Green Bay fans had never lost a game before or something... Wait...

Hmm. Well you make a good case. The Bills I can understand. Their D has been lights out. But Dolphins... ugh.

I don't think the falcons will play like that again this year. Seattle are building nicely, and Dallas are unlucky not to be 3-2. Beat the Skins next week, and the lid that's off will be vapourised.

Hey hey. I aint no troll. And yes. I saw Hundley a couple of pre-seasons ago and thought he had the goods. I think you're suffering from the fact you're used to watching Rodgers or Favre running around. You have to lower your expectations now that you have mortals under centre.

No Hundley love?

Kap is.

Alright. Back to the drawing board. Everyone's injured, or as it turns out... just [censored]...

Just a lazy 103 yard kickoff return TD to make Monday easier for you there Gorg.

Massive news for the NFC and NFL in general. Broken collarbone for Rodgers. Blows the whole thing wide open.