Dappa Dan

Yeah. The more I think about it the more I think having gone through the pain, why would they go back. Especially seeing as there's a couple of highly touted QBs in the draft. I was reading today though about the Broncos possibly being talked into another Manning going there by Peyton. I sort of hope that happens.

One of the big things about the NFL that's great is the whole "big time player" and "clutch" thing, particularly with QBs. Guys can play for years and be good. Even MVPs like Ryan... but when the big moments come, that seems to define them. That's what has me interested in this current crop. Mariotta, Luck, Winston, Dak, Wentz, Goff, Wilson and a number of others... They can put together really good stats, and noone cares if you don't have the ability to find the play on the one play it's needed. Games seem to be close SO often. And playoffs are so fiercely contested. I reckon most of those guys haven't seen a really, really important one off play that's career defining. Wilson in his superbowls has them. Luck in his big time playoff comeback. The others haven't even started their "clutch" careers yet. These playoffs are gonna be unreal for that.

Yeah I've got a lot of time for him. I can understand the Peyton-Eli thing. They're related, one is regarded as the better player, both have 2 rings... scuttlebutt can be fun.

Pats Rams Steelers

Yeah. Just saying he cops it pretty harshly. I reckon more than half the conversations anyone ever had about how good Eli is had the Peyton comparison. Brutal. We don't get too much of that in the AFL. Probably just the Abletts, and even then, noone really cares.

And of course there's the Peyton comparison. Gee whiz, next year is going to be crazy in the NFC. Rodgers back = Packers 10 wins at least. Cowboys with Zeke and their O line in one piece, plus some good selections. Vikings with Bradford or Keenum. Seattle with less injuries and their D back. Rams are now as sexy as any team in the league. Sainst suddenly serious again, and have Kamara. Lions always thereabouts. So much red meat.

Or aiming to maintain some dignity as he's kicked out of NYC. Yeah. NFL is a three year rebuild league. No reason to take the MFC approach to list building. The trouble with that logic is that these other sides who are close, and some that are miles away like the Browns certainly COULD benefit and "win now." But if they could, why can't Giants? I always thought why not do the Favre>Rodgers thing of letting your first round pick QB settle in for a couple of years behind the beloved veteran. In fact I always assumed that's exactly what they'd do next year. Surely Geno Smith is a known quantity...

Yeah I didn't mean to sound like an Eli hater. He looked fine when he had a single super WR to throw to only a month or two ago... What I mean is just the time factor. He turns 37 in a couple of months... so using Peyton as a guide, he has a couple of good seasons left and then would fall away steeply. (Peyton might be different as he was massively banged up, but still...) So the argument then becomes what are you losing Bortles for and what are you gaining. Eli for a couple of years to contend, then you have to go look for someone again? Maybe that's what they'll do. It certainly worked for Broncos when their D was winning them games. JAX should and probably do rate their D that highly... So there might be something in your suggestion. I also reckon Smith would go great at JAX as well, btw. As for NFC East fans... we went from liking that McAdoo was there to just being resigned to the fact now that he has 5 games left, maximum. He's done. Frankly, I've always felt the same about Garrett. MInd you... I had no time for Dougie P either, and look how that turned out. maybe I'm just negative.

Jags only because of the Coughlin thing. I don't reckon he'd be too much of a massive upgrade on Bortles. They might think about it if they can get something good for Bortles, a la the Bradford trade when Eagles got Wentz. So Giants to take a QB in the draft... But which one will be competing against Dak and Carson (and Cousins maybe?) for the next ten years?

Just looks fake. Like they reversed the video for a second.

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I feel like Eagles secondary gets helped a lot by other things... like time of possession, and how Wentz controls the clock and hasn't turned the ball over much. And obviously they get their picks because the front 7 put so much pressure on the QB. Rams are a different animal, with so many options, including a pass catching RB. Something Eagles haven't countered well... Also the secondary, outside of Jenkins, is all no-names. As many have pointed out, they've only played two teams with winning records, and lost to one of them. In a couple of weeks, we'll learn a lot about Philly. Rams I think we're seeing what they are already. They've seen through a lot of tests.

You neglected to mention the tie breaker you have now with them. After a loss, Rams were supposed to fall by the wayside. Instead, here we are, still none the wiser about what the hell is happening in the NFC. Eagles only need one loss to fall back into the playoffs more with Vikes, Rams, Saints etc etc... As a die hard I'm looking around at who can hold back the Eagles. With a 1 game lead, it has to come from one of the last 5 opponents. I'll put a line through Giants and Raiders for now, on form... Seattle with their injuries should be beatable. Dallas in week 17 might have given up the fight, or might not even be a live game... That leaves your dreaded Rams... So here we are comparing a top-flight Goff outfit to a top-flight Wentz outfit. We're going to have to do this again and again as the years roll by, and as the lists are overhauled every couple of years, as they are in the NFL. I could go into more detail with Defensive coordinators, offensive schemes, away form etc... but the way I see it is simple. Vikings scare me because of how organised they are, but they have a QB that I'm not sure about. Seattle have injuries. New Orleans have been beaten, and I'm not sure their D is as outstanding as it has been in recent weeks... But the Rams... The Eagles have got a lot out of a QB with one or two accuracy problems who has been in outrageously good form behind a dominant O line. What makes the difference for them though is that the defense (run D particularly) is making life veeeery comfortable for the offense, Giving them heaps of opportunities (=2nd in give-take turnover stat). Why do the Rams worry me? - O lines are comparable. - D lines are comparable. Donald might be the best in the league. Cox not far behind. - Receivers are multi faceted, if not out-and-out stars. Watkins = Jefferey. Kupp = Agholor. Ertz = Woods. - QBs are evenly matched I think. Wentz on the move has an advantage. Goff's arm accuracy is slightly ahead. So what's the difference? Not much. That's what worries me. Rams are good in all the areas Eagles are good. I get the feeling Blount, Ajayi, Clement and Smallwood vs Gurley and Austin could decide it. If Gurley can break the Eagles impenetrable run D... then they might have the edge.

I'm gonna see what odds I can get at TAB for Clint to win the comp.

Clint gonna be super hard to beat from here. Rams were so good. Saints are a really good side, and from what I saw they were playing well. Goof just keeps on keeping on. Little bit scared of them now.

Yeah fair enough

WOW!

Still. Manful performance. Hundley particularly.

Gee whiz the pack are putting up one helluva show. Lots of people have Steelers as AFC championship team.

Jayden will give him a headband. Problem solved.

Had a closer look. Of the 4 we took, I'm most excited about this guy. I think he's got the skill set to succeed in a League that's going to get quicker and quicker... But also because he has what we need badly. Pace.

Look out for the Angus and Jesse rumours to Freo for the next 5 years.

[censored]. Forgot to pick. Jacksonville Seattle Carolina

Demonland readers = very much a specific demographic.

Ah I see. Yeah. The gulf between the top few teams and the rest, in both conferences, is starting to show. I think Rams aren't what we saw this week. They've been a lot better. I expect them to lift. Otherwise though there's a lot of NQR. Dallas type teams.