Dappa Dan

Sure. I think though you can take a stab at market value. Nothing wrong with giving it a range. Say pick 20-40 or whatever. That covers the "inexactness" of it. Take into account that the Eagles traded everything they had just about, in exchange for Bradford in the first place, then the pick that got Wentz. There were pro bowl corners, and Defensive rookie of the year linebackers in there, along with all the Eagles second rounders and third rounders... It was so much fireworks. To be able to say at the end of it all that they traded Bradford for the first round pick (Barnett) that snaffled the turnover that won them a superbowl... AND they traded a journeyman free agent backup QB for a second and third rounder (that they currently have neither of)... it's a great bit of list management magic. Howie has been crowned manager of the year, and for good reason. So one could assume he'd get market value for him. As you say though, there are THAT many variables. Including the wishes of Foles himself which we'll likely never know. I think you'll find of course that like everyone, even after a fairytale year, the Eagles have needs all over the place. Tackle, RB (Blount, Smallwood and Pumphrey out), Middle linebacker, and most of the secondary. And they need WR depth.

Good point. So it has to do with what everyone else is offering. I'll brace myself for an early second rounder and be thrilled with a mid first rounder then.

One last question for @Macca and everyone else... In light of the Jimmy G trade... What is the BASEMENT and CEILING price for FOLES, just in terms of picks. I have it as him being more attractive right now that Garroppolo. Jimmy is gonna be awesome, had never lost etc... Foles was considered a journeyman backup... but now is more decorated than Garroppolo. When the 49ers traded him, they held at the time the first pick in the second round, shared with the Browns who were also winless. They went on to win 6 of the last 8, and move the eventual traded pick down from 34 all the way to 43... But if he was enough to give up a POTENTIAL pick 33.... then isn't Foles worth more than that come October 31 next year? Very similar situations. Jimmy was out at season's end. Foles will be too... Thoughts?

Yeah absolutely. One other thing I just thought of was the Eagles/Vikings trade of Bradford a couple of seasons ago. It came about because a team had a starter do a knee and they wanted to give their talented roster a chance. There's 32 teams. Odds are SOMEONE will go through that... possibly early in the regular or pre season. What happens if Watson takes longer than they thought? Or a problem comes up? You think they'd go with Savage over Foles if they could get him? Vikings are a well run club and they gave up a first rounder on the eve of the season for Bradford and had very good results. Also by that stage of the year they'll have WAY more inside info on how Carson is looking. Has he been able to stay fit? Is he confident? Can we put that pressure on him etc etc. If the answer is yes, then a trade is much more likely... and by THAT stage Foles will still have a superbowl MVP award in his house, and no first round QB picks to have to look better than. Cousins will have found a home. Maybe it'll just be a mid season thing again like Ajayi? I hadn't though about Bears. I know they are saying they're happy with Trubiski... But are they really? Clubs do funny things with a few months off. Also had assumed Miami would go with Tannehill again. They're also a basket case, so the fear would be Foles would revert to Rams Foles without a good squad around him. But it's certainly possible.

Ok. Foles landing spots... There's more than I thought. Brows: Picks 1, 4 and 33.... More than likely they take the first QB. Only way they don't is if they take others with picks 1 and 4, and then move 33 to Eagles for Foles. Unlikely though. Giants: Have Eli. Have already said they'll use him for next few seasons under Shurmur. Foles won't go to be a backup. They'll draft a QB if they want one. Next. Broncos: The first of the high possibility ones. They hold pick 5 and 40. They can take what's likely to be the 3rd best QB... Or trade their pick 3 and go down to Eagles pick 32... or potentially trade their 40 in a straight swap and take the best Left tackle available to protect Foles. They won't need much to compete again with that defense. Jets: Pick 6. Could drop down to 32 and take him. Unlikely though. Not sure they have the list to maximise the Foles potential, and would be another example of what happened to him at Rams. Arizona: Pick 15. Another big chance. Eagles would probably accept pick 15 for Foles and 32. Nothing wrong with that if they identified a Tackle that'll get to 15 but not 32. I'd take that in a heartbeat. And it's a great situation for Foles too. And to top it all off... He's an Arizona state lad. Chargers: Pick 17. Could he to a club with a 36 year old qb as the next starter? In today's world, Rivers could play another 4 years. Father about 7 more kids. He'll still be a great qb. Next. Bills: Picks 21, 22. Another good chance here. They clearly don't love Taylor. They have two picks. And a great trading relationship with the Eagles. Do they have the O-line? Do they have the receivers? That's questionable. Could happen, but maybe not as likely as Arizona or Broncos. They also have picks 53 AND 56... which are both mid to late second rounders. Currently Eagles pick at 32 and then nothing til the fourth round. They'd love a second rounder you'd think. Saints: Pick 27. Brees is 39.... It's not happening cos they won't want a controversy. Only way it does is if Foles doesn't find a starter job, and wants to take over in a couple of years under a great coach, play in a dome, in a star team. Very much an outside chance this. Steelers: Pick 28. See above. Ben is 35, so won't happen. Jaguars: Pick 29. Now here's one. They've got the receivers, protection, unbelievable run game and probably the best D going round. Bortles was painful all year, but may have saved his job in the playoff loss to the Pats. It's not outside the realms though. Is Foles an upgrade? Yes. Is the price too steep? No... Foles isn't a high price QB, so they can take him on and be able to retain their star defenders over the term of his contract. And all for only a very late first round pick. I think it's win-win-win. For Foles, Jags and Eagles. Especially Eagles who aren't in their Conference. Vikings: Pick 30. I thought of this yesterday, then thought about Keenum, Bridgewater and Bradford, and realised, nah, probably not. Then I saw many of the pundits are mentioning them. If they take Foles, then Keenum and Bradford hit the open market. Bridgewater I think will stay and keep healing at Vikings. They love him there. It's a really aggressive move though, since Keenum has got a lot of fans right now, and Bridgewater is seen as talent, and Bradford is just injury prone. Could they move on 2 or even 3 of those guys and roll with Foles? Was the Minnesota disaster enough to lose patience with all three? Does the fact it was Foles setting records against them in the championship game make them more likely to be the trade partner? Could happen. And pick 30 aint a high price. If Foles could do it at Eagles, he can do it at Vikes. It's tantalising, if you're Vikings front office. Patriots: Pick 31. Nah. Brady didn't even shake his hand at the end of the game. The problem with many of those is that in many mocks, as many as 6 QBs are being taken... and early. Conservatively, let's say 4 go in the first round. So Darnold, Rosen, Allen, and maybe one of Jackson and Mayfield. That wipes out Browns, Giants, Broncos and Jets who have the pressing need. Leaving just 3 or so more teams looking for a QB. Say, the Bills Arizona and Jags. Cousins will go to one of these 7 teams. Meaning really only one or two possible teams looking for a QB. So after ALL that... It seems like, yeah, sure... plenty of teams need a qb... but there's so many out there. 4-5 drafted ones, plus the free agent/trade pool which is very strong. Cousins to lead them off... Keenum and Bradford there too. Seems to me Eagles might only get a second rounder for him. So why not hang onto him for 2018?

In a perfect world, Foles would accept a few million a year to backup Wentz the rest of his career. Obviously now that's impossible. Me and @Macca went over the sums just after the championship game he dominated in... and as Jaws (Jaworski, last eagles superbowl quarterback and media personality) put it... There's only 16 or so reliable quarterbacks you can trust for 16 games a season in the league, and now Foles is one of them. Going by that, he really has to get a new gig. Dead right. Eagles O line played out of their minds this year and especially in playoffs. Foles is a reps player... as in he needs reps... he had an MVP calibre season, playoff MVP calibre 3 weeks... and superbowl MVP in his trophy cupboard as a statue-style QB. Is everyone in the league convinced he'll win more superbowls? The answer, generally, is no. He had some incredible coaching and a team around him that a quarterback dreams of. A D that was as good as just about anyone all year, and saved his butt a few times. Heaps of receivers. A top 5 running game with at least 2 super pass catchers out of the backfield, and guys who can throw blocks when he needed them. And as everyone is now aware, some extremely great quarterback coaching as evidenced by what happened with not one, but two QBs. You also have a team who have a real conundrum on their hands. Wentz is the starter... noone doubts that... We know Foles will be at a different club. The question is when... and how much do they get. Here's your options. A: Trade him on or soon after March 14. His trade value will NEVER be higher. Trouble with that is that we'd be rolling with another random backup, or Sudfeld, if Wentz doesn't come up for week 1. B: Take Foles in to week 1-4 or so... get those on the board as best you can. Take pressure of Wentz HAVING to play. Put him back in when he's 100%. They'd be looking at the many false starts of Andrew Luck here and factoring that in. Trade Foles before the dealine for a Jimmy Garroppolo type deal. C: Keep Foles on his $7 mil contract for 2018. He leaves at season's end to wherever he wants in free agency after winning a second superbowl. I'm not sure on rules, but if he's signed to big bucks, I suppose Eagles get a compensatory pick at the end of the third or fourth round or something? Macca probably knows. D: Cut a few guys, save a further 15 million and add it to his current contract as a renegotiation for just the next 12 months. Thus paying 20+ million to Big Dick Nick to play a few games and be a backup. Simply not an option. It's a tough one to predict. Especially when another big wrinkle here is that they have a superbowl winning list with almost all its major stars signed through 2018. As Macca will tell you, they're all "win now" these franchises. And there's no doubt that keeping Foles for next year is the safe stress-free move. For our resident Eagle tragic... I dunno that I'm all that stressed with any of those options. Obviously my mind is in a certain place after just winning one... but I feel like the only thing Eagles miss out on is a pick. Maybe a second rounder. Possibly a move from pick 32 up to mid first round or something... and in the end, is that ALL that much of a huge thing next to taking care of your 25 year old franchise QB by supporting him with a superbowl MVP? So yeah. I'll take all these options. I'm gonna do another post now showing the potential landing spots for him.

Yeah they do. And they're also aware of who it was that got them there.

Little did I know. In my defense noone anywhere saw a fairytale like this. Yeah, he's on the move for sure. Obviously he could stay, but word is Wentz is going to make it for week 1. He has to get a job. It'll be interesting to see how they treat him. Highest bidder, or do they let him name his price as a free agent. Or engineer a deal to the club he wants to go to for the best money and situation. Simply HAS to be a starter next year. Unbelievable. I have it 0%. Said it many times. Yeah my buddy was too. Floods of tears and uncontrollable for a couple of hours. It's going to be like that for us all pretty soon.

Yup. That's really the size of it. The play at the end of the first half was incredible. Foles CATCHING passes.

He exceeded them by about half time. Unbelievable. Will be talked about for years and years. The D didn't really even show up like usual. It was really Foles and the offense.

Today alone. lol

Foles already announced.

Thanks boys. Wow what a game. A fairytale season from start to finish. Unbelievable.

Very uncomfortable.

Far out I wanna puke. Brady to win easily here. Eagles haven't even gotten close to him.

Pats you mean. Yeah. Falcons though. That's all anyone's thinking.

Both teams playing contained footy. Running the ball a lot. The shootout I saw coming has eventuated more or less. Can't really complain too much. One Pats TD came from a penalty and a freaky pick.

I don't know what to say. The balls on this guy. Calling that play on 4th down. Doug "not coach of the year" Petersen.

THAT'S ONE OF THE MOST BADASS THINGS I'VE EVER SEEN

Sooo... to even have a chance of winning the picks I have to take Pats. Which is what I feel is THE pick. I reckon 60% chance they win, 40% chance Eagles win. In a dome so it'll be very very high scoring. Eagles have enough weapons, and Brady will torch Eagles' secondary. Pats 42 Eagles 37

I have an awful feeling I'm going to be cutting and pasting this in a few days.

lol Cousins out, Smith in. The money they paid for Smith could have been spent on Kirk a couple of years ago and they'd have a younger, better QB. Muppets.

Yeah saw that. Love it. Wow. Fabric player.

Oh no. Reigning tipping leader too. Surely you wouldn't listen to that when there's heaps of streaming radio stations.

True. From about week 5 or so when they were 4-1 having only lost to KC everyone was positive. Then they beat the Panthers and from there it's been superbowl run this and superbowl run that. I do remember that year. Matter of fact that was the year I fell in love with the Eagles, watching Vick. And who did you beat in Wild Card week? In those days Rodgers wasn't yet the mythical superstar he is now. I was actually living in the states and was a bit like you, once they got there it seemed like it was theirs... in the leadup though, they were just another wild card team. Foles is a funny one for Eagles faithful. A lot of people got on his bandwagon when he started for us cos of the ridiculous numbers in his breakout year. Most knew he didn't have that killer instinct... and had some holes in his game. After he was booted, Philly sports radio has laughed at him for two years and how bad he was under Fisher. Even when he was signed as backup most had a giggle. When he took over from Wentz, the naysayers pretty much all still wrote him off. His biggest critic ate his words this week... but maintains that Foles isn't a superstar. And that the game he played last weekend shouldn't be expected with any regularity. As much as we're singing his praises... it WAS just one good game. People were ready to crown Keenum as the Vikings starter for next season until he laid an egg against the Eagles. Now he's back in the pack again. I'm confident if Foles throws three picks, people will most certainly let him fade back into quarterback obscurity.