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never going to be about Roos

ahh...Blease Strauss.. yepp.. lemons. Trenners gone from ^^^^^^^ to vvvvvvv another thing entirely

I think many are misconstruing what some of us are saying.. We arent knocking the idea of Toumpas per se. I / we agree he will ( most likely) develop into a better than average player. The question is/was .....was he the right choice at the time given we are who we are and where we are. ? Some of us simply take the position he wasnt. Thats not to say hes not a decent pick, just not the one we needed then/now.

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Really.. I may have given more body to my stance but its the same one. Wines and Toupmas are like any kids with ability hopefully long term ( 150-200 ) game prospects. Im not sure where I havent thought this. Also Ive said that imho Wines is Inside meat and veg, Toumpas outside icing on cake. Toumpas is 2-3 years away from being anything of real note. Wines is doing real and meaningful things RIGHT NOW . If I had the pick..I would have chosen Wines over Toumpas...doesnt even bear 5 secs thinking really// What do we lack ?? Go at it inside mids. Please explain your thinking Ive changed my tune

nows theres a logic to that .... a little smoke clears

Well done MFC... Good call PJ et al Onwards and upwards !! Go Dees

Ahhh cant trick you mate...lol Echuca was great...bit overcast , but might enjoyable Probably best bit was not being able to listen to the last half of the game...lol ( mind you look at the worm was depressing enough )

Roos been seen catching any planes today per chance

I disagree.. He might have at least started the game as though he thought we should play to win. Having no forward options really and allowing Dawes to be nobbled all day wasnt ( for mine ) overly inspiring. He waved the white flag even before the bounce. Wonderful

Thats to suggest that he would have only made some difference this year. Im fully aware of the nature of drafting. My contention is that both are long term prospects. They are slightly different.. One more inside , the other more outside.. Good insiders I would suggest are harder to come by. Evidence our situation currently where we will be desperately seeking some good inside stock this drafting/trading coming. Funny had we taken Wines we would already have one in the system.

Im certainly not suggesting shooting up the ladder would be an outcome. Maybe a more competitive and forward orientated midfield might

Hes sowing the seeds of a reason for leaving. Chances are if we get Choco or Roos etc they WOULDNT need a Craig above him and he knows it,hence he saying it here. Chances of him being next coach ...be less than 25% Chances of incoming not needing him above 90 % Craig can exit with dignity and such intact. We save 400 biggies ( or whatever hes on ) No losers really.

Craig could walk if he misses out on Coaching Job Looks like hes planning his exit strategy already

Im not sure you can be quite so cavalier in calling it this way. Without a viable playing list and with enormous costs associated Essendon are / or might be very soon, in a hell of a lot of trouble.. Should they start haemorrhaging sponsors as a fallout they will find themselves in an unenviable cashflow situation ( we know this because we've been there ). There in a spot of bother, a bit more than us.

Its about as good an argument though as hypothesising that someone might be better than another through sheer guesstimating Id suggest !! What If Toumpas is good, but Wines still better ?? Thats just as possible and would sink all the arguments based upon Dimitri skipping past.. What we do KNOW is in front of us. What I know is Id rather Wines assisting in a meaningful manner in the middle, right now. Wines ( like his mate Viney ) are notorious for tacking all comers on. Little Jimmy isnt at that point. I havent seen anyone write that Toumpas isnt a quality player . But most of his value lays in his potential. That ought to be the clubs motto. Whats latin for " We draft potential and kill it "

Roll up Roll up take your seats ladies and gentlemen for the stoush of the Cennnttttuuurrryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy !!!! In the Red corner... litte golden boy Hirdy aka "David" In the Black corner.....the current champeeeeeeeenn !!! Vlad the Goliath !!! This IS going to be interesting. Cant be two winners here !!

The many are making excuses for the error. Its not to say Jimmy is ordinary,,,,just that Olly was a better choice at the time. Why is it CONTEXT is the hardest word....maybe Elton knows

La'st time I observed no ones Supreme court usurped the black and white rules of WADA normally id wish Essendon good luck...however currently I hope they rot in hell makes for the writing of the next airline crash investigation..!!!

I reckon Blease should get a job...Football isnt it

So many just dont want to accept reality and constantly offer up excuses upon excuses as to why our stuff ups are really understandable. its not so much that Toumpas is no good. its that he was the wrong choice in light of our needs NOW That this kid comes good in 2-3 years is wonderful. where will the rest of the team be ??

Wines has grunt... Toumpas probably has more class. Im not saying for one moment that Dimitri isnt making a fist of it...Just Olivers is bigger Simples !!! and hes doing it NOW

english if you may please sir

Rubbish.. prey tell quantify such a ridiculous remark Wines impacts games..Toumpas might,,in a coupe of years

interesting way of looking at it. Sadly close to the mark !!