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  1. when do we have to nominate the use of compensation picks?

    and if we elect to use them this year, then wish to utilise them in a trade for a gaff / dangerfield / gray / boak, would the club we traded them to then be compelled to use them in this coming draft?

  2. they're building a hotel in the province that schwab was looking at as a centre for high altitude training.

    the announcement will come when it comes.

    hopefully both the dees and port will announce before round 1, or potentially before this week seeing as we're playing one another.

  3. gotta say, port has greater midfield depth and class than we do.

    we'd kill for a player of boak, hartlett, or gray's class.

    we have far too many cassisi and kornes types, and not anything like the class of those three mentioned.

  4. Well....yes and no. They have plenty of players that only have a couple of years under their belt. How come the players they've unearthed are classy, tough and unrelenting FROM DAY ONE!!!!!!!?????

    that comes down to development, retention, and ability to draw players leaving other clubs to ours.

    hawthorn have done a remarkable job in the last decade or so. plus their drafting has, clearly, been superb, and astute.

    so far we've drawn clark to the club, the starting 21+1 is dominated by players picked up late or in rookie drafts, now the drafting and the development need a heap of work.

    it will be interesting to see whether the club chooses to utilise the two additional picks granted for scully - the issue of retention is one that plagues us, and has done as long as i can remember, with players regularly leaving the club, probably right back to the most infamous of them all. the curse of #31!

    we need players who can perform as part of our midfield, and they say this upcoming draft is chockers with strong mids.

    if we're truly as terrible as we looked at times tonight, we might even be in with an outside chance for whitfield, but i somehow doubt it.

  5. the worst thing is that you knew it was going to happen. we're just not good enough.

    it's interesting that so many people say we're lacking class, and that all those top round draft picks have been wasted. we're not the only ones; some clubs just draft better.

    the big problem is development, and hopefully that's something that neeld and company will address. he's clearly not impressed by our drafting - two top 15 picks are playing at casey, watts just wants to dispose of the ball as soon as he gets it, and sylvia is just a dumb footballer.

    our high-end drafting has been shocking for years. morton disappoints or is injured as well.

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  6. yeah, about what i expected to be honest, and in truth what i more or less expected last week too.

    i thought we might show some competitiveness like last week, but alas it was back to the sheer ineptitude of 2011. i think this was worthwhile, however, as it at least shows the new coaching department who will and who won't fight when being slaughtered by a vastly superior team, who are only going to get better, and are deservedly one of the premiership chances.

    as someone above noted, we don't have a lot of class in the midfield and so rely on grunt. magner's injury is a big blow to the start of the season, as it also poses questions abotu depth, which is something we lacked last year even when he who will not be named was up and pretending to play for us.

    also, we know we're not even near as good as hawthorn. they're going to be a great team to watch this year.

    bring on round 1.

  7. the likes of morton, jurrah, mckenzie, tapscott are no chance for round 1 you wouldn't think - simply not enough miles in their legs across pre-season to be a walk-up start in round 1. grimes and trengove will be pushing up that hill to get there in time too. plus i'm pretty certain that sylvia is out suspended, isn't he?

    B: Bartram - Frawley - Rivers

    HB: Grimes - Sellar - Garland

    C: Green - Moloney - Trengove

    HF: Howe - Watts - Petterd

    F: Martin - Clark - Davey

    Foll: Jamar - Magner - Jones

    I/C: Bate - Blease - Bail

    Sub: Dunn

    there's still a lot of questions to be asked about the line-up, and it could very much change after the outing against the hawks.

    i loved what i saw of couch in his half of football against the pies, and he'd very much be a chance for the sub role. but dunn did his role well too in that time, and adds height and versatility rather than a pure midfield change-up.

    please, no more injuries til round 1!

  8. so it would seem that both bate and magner will be in the starting centre square line-up in round 1.

    again, super-impressed by the backline - sellar has added solidity, and both davis and mcnamara showed potential too. garland is kamikaze - i never know what's going to happen.

  9. i got very sick of foxtel saying that they were missing so many key players.

    yet their midfield for parts of the night was made of pendlebury, swan, thomas, ball, and wellingham. melbourne's midfield - missing moloney and trengove as the only two players in our group who are even approaching 'star' status, plus mckenzie - out-worked them for the most part. great to see.

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  10. no, compare and contrast the sides.

    gc17 were playing their best - ours were mostly inexperienced.

    a 3 point 'loss' with 5 more i50s is disappointing, but all that matters is that we've had the first hit-out for 2012.

    bring on brislions!

  11. all the contrition will come up in the lead-up to the clash with the demons.

    shame he committed to gws back in november, 2011.

    i think he's going to be a fabulous player, but i hope he never tastes a premiership, and meanwhile viney, and the two kids we pick up with our compo picks, play in an historic era for the melbourne football club and drink in all the champagne of success that scully never does.

    anyway, i expect him to, after six years, say 'i was really proud of being part of this fine club and helping establish it...and now i'm going back to richmond'.

  12. i really hope he can become our pendlebury. whilst his disposal isn't as clean, he's got that similar ability to just keep finding the ball.

    his fitness has been issue - but whose hasn't? with an extra pre-season into his frame, he should be starting to fill out nicely too.

    the young centre square combination of trengove, gysberts and viney could be tantalising to watch in the coming years.

  13. his year last year was extraordinary.

    stepped up big-time when it was required, and then went forward already and showed that he could kick goals.

    i think he can become a really handy player - a true utilty who can fill any hole, even running up and down a wing as well as playing back.

    where previously if jamar went down i thought we were (more) doomed, stef showed he can more than adequately star as a ruckman too - some of his tap work was inspired - so i think he might be best as a ruckman, i'm really confident he can play a role anywhere on the ground.

    i expect some club to come a-courtin' with big dollars at the end of his next contract.

  14. i still hope he'll be the star i think he can be, but for 2012 i'll just take more steady progression.

    the player he's always reminded me of most, at least in terms of his movement, is hird.

    i'll settle for him being as good as hird, thanks kindly.

  15. this game is still right on.

    both sides are scoring quickly when they get a run-on - gotta make sure you get a goal when the opportunity presents itself, not another wretched point.

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