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21 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Nothing, we were the ones that signed him on a long term deal knowing he could be done at any moment.

Medical retirement should mean Gus is taken care of by the league and not salary cap.

The only other thing we should’ve got / should get is access to a replacement player by the SSP.

It’s crazy to have the deadline last week and Gus announced now. Provision should be made for medical retirements before the first bounce of the season proper.

That first paragraph is a terrible take. He had gone years without concussion and then was knocked into next year with a huge hit that could have caused brain damage to anyone.

Agree that we should be allowed to sign a replacement player. I’m not sure what other compensation we can reasonably expect.

Not a whole lot that we can read into this result, just that Richmond have better depth than us. The complexion of the game would be completely different with the likely opening round 22s for each team. Individual performances are worth looking into. Very scrappy game overall but I’ll reserve judgement for now.

1 hour ago, 58er said:

Kossie is suspended for 0 and 1 Rounds in 2024 coming up.

Wrong. It was just a one game ban. He will play round 1 (miss round 0)

Where has this idea that Brayshaw is not slotting straight back into the midfield come from?

23 hours ago, poita said:

I think we're 50/50 to play finals in 2024, and considerably less than that in 2025. Our depth in key areas is almost non-existent and we are very heavily reliant on Gawn and May to play full seasons, which is unlikely given their ages.

The age profile of our list says that our fall, when it inevitably comes, will be pretty brutal. I doubt the coach and the list manager will survive.

Disagree regarding your second paragraph. Gawn and May are the only significant losses to come due to age over the next few years (I consider Tmac and BBB already done). Important players yes, but with free agency and likely a good amount of cap space we would be in a good position to replace them. Ruckman can go on to a surprisingly good age - Sandilands was 36 when he retired (Gawn is almost 32). Our age profile is excellent.

21 hours ago, drdrake said:

Sydney and Brisbane are starting to double dip, you have the NGA and FS picks.  

It’s crazy than Sydney could take Nick Blakey. North were completely dudded. He would have played AFL at a high level regardless of their academy.

18 hours ago, Deespicable said:

While I agree with you that any suggestion the Pies were worthy of an A when they picked up two later order players who are both regarded as quick movers is a massive suck up to Pies job. They were probably a B, given they gave away their first pick for Schultz who if you have seen him, is a very classy player and will play round 1, unlike many other draft picks. 

But as to what we did, it is hard to get excited.

Windsor and Tholstrup are both quick players and so is Kynan Brown, so we made sure our ageing side is replenished with youthful speed - that's a big tick.

But we completely blundered the trade swapping game - clearly we are missing Josh Mahoney's input here and we all should be querying the role Tim Lamb had in those pick swaps and overall list management.

The first decision to offload picks 14, 22 and 33 to advance up the order and get pick 11 should go down as one of our worst efforts in history. Clearly we thought by having pick 5 and 11 we could get Harley Reid, but it proved a flawed philosophy. Whilst i am quite happy with Tholstrup, we almost certainly could have got him for pick 14 anyway as only Collingwood seemed aware of his talents and their picks was much later. And even if we'd lost out and some club snaffled him at pick 12 and 13, we could have got Leake from Tas and the jury is still out as to which of him and Tholstrup is better.

Then our list manager mucked up how many players we needed on our list (kept Schache, T-Mac and Brown) and that meant we had to offload pick 42 just before the draft for a bag of peanuts.

Stupid is as stupid does.

Saints apparently interested in Tholstrup also. But I do agree the pick swap proved dumb given Leake slid.

Pick 42 was basically worth nothing anyway. The club didn’t rate the talent available.

6 hours ago, Garbo said:

I trust our recruiters as they have a very good strike rate, but my gut says you shouldn’t take small fwds or outside mids inside the first 10 and should be looking at an outside mid only with our with our 2nd pick. We should be looking for a Steven May replacement given Petty is also likely out in a year or 2 as well. Curtin seems like the ready made replacement and seems highly regarded or Caddy if we want more fwd options.

Josh Kelly anyone?

1 minute ago, adonski said:

We may take a KPD @ 11

We don't really have a player like Windsor on the list, I can understand why they may be enamored with him

Best available please. Picking for needs in the first round is a mistake.

Just now, Demonland said:

Does this mean if we win tomorrow and keep winning we get a home Grand Final (even if Adelaide make it)?

Adelaide have to get through us to make the GF so yes.

Good result

West was awful against Brisbane. Panicked disposals which cost us goals and field position repeatedly. If she can’t handle the pressure of home and away then how is she going to be in finals?

Fwiw I think she is probably just down on confidence and she definitely has it in her to be one of our best, as she showed most of last season. It’s a big call to drop her.

50 minutes ago, rjay said:

Yep, it's why I think we play Goldie in the middle against these teams in particular.

She has the strength to go with them. Lil is most definitely not the answer.

I wouldn't also be against the idea of running Harris in short bursts as a mid to break things up a bit.

We keep giving teams the same look. Mick talks about the teams flexibility, it's time to really show it.

On another note, I hope Makin is back this week..she adds real X factor to the forward half that's been missing.

Zanker has also had some excellent games as a mid in previous seasons. But Goldie in there for sure against Adelaide and Brisbane.

Very very poor showing.

Selection baffling with Campbell and Wilson out for Ivey and Watt (why?!), and Gall ultimately staying in the team. 
We look very one-dimensional without Paxy and really missed Lampard and Gay’s steadiness in the backline. Gall looks to have talent but clearly is not ready for finals-like footy.

Brisbane destroyed us with footy smarts. A lot of really dumb decisions, particularly by West who had a stinker.

Such a frustrating watch.

2 hours ago, Jaded No More said:

I am going to argue that ****house goal kicking cost us a PF.

 

We lost the game in many ways. One of them was goalkicking. One of them was Schache as sub over Grundy.

I doubt he will be bid on so the club will either take him as our last pick (like Woey jnr) or rookie

6. Hanks

5. Heath

4. Purcell 

3. Mackin

2. Gillard

1. Goldrick

1 hour ago, rjay said:

She's a ripper...

My comment re her and Garner is not meant as a put down, I just think Goldie might be the better match on pure defensive terms. Shelley might get the job and it wouldn't surprise me, she will be a real pain in the a... for Garner and may hurt more going the other way.

Garner will be too smart for Goldie. Heath is the one for the job, as mentioned she is strong

12 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Adelaide aren't going to be in a better position draft wise this time next year.

They will most likely play finals which means their first round pick drops down to the mid teens and may be used on their future father son in Welsh who looks like a bona fide early first round pick.

Do they have any key defenders left? An injury to Tex and they could be bottom 4.

13 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

It’s a Gamble…

Not really, we still hold the cards next year and I’m not convinced that what Adelaide can offer would get us near Reid.

I was just thinking tonight that I was going to miss the Freo death ride, maybe we have another one for 2024!

1 hour ago, Timothy Reddan-A'Blew said:

(* Wonder when they fly in?)

Agenda item #1 Stop Jasmine Garner:

AFLCA voting

1. Jasmine Garner 60

2. Daylight

3. 49 (Laura Gardiner, Sydney(!))

 

I present….Shelley Heath!

11 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Tomorrow we should think very carefully. 
if Petty has checked out, we should Cash in. 
it depends what The Croms are prepared to cough up. 

Nope. Plenty can change in a year, and even more can change in two years. 

10 minutes ago, BDA said:

Would prefer lions to beat Adelaide next week. Would help our chances of home finals and make our path to a flag easier.

Definitely 

2 minutes ago, BDA said:

We fell asleep in the second and third quarter. Huge 4^th quarter effort not enough to retrieve the situation.

Umpiring atrocious. Clown show, particularly in the 3^rd quarter.

Zanker was magnificent. Best game in the red and blue for her.

Harris huge in the ruck in last but quiet up to then.

This loss means we’ll have to win the flag in Adeliade most likely (getting ahead of myself potentially but those were easily the best 2 teams in the comp playing today). We can do it but it makes it so much harder.

Anyways, great game and advertisement for AFLW. Pity about the result.

Go Dees

Hopefully North can do us a solid and take them down. They have the quality.

Umps decided this one in the end