daisycutter

afl to have a meeting on nov 15 to decide fate of jobe brownlow medal - weak, gutless [censored]s

depends, iva, whether you believe someone who has completed his punishment should continue to be punished (in some form) or allowed to start again.

maybe it was just a reflection of his opinion on trade week, ernie

think you'll find that we only ever talked of around about (unqualified) 2nd rounder. i.e. it was open to interpretation

wrong again. i won't explain it in detail because you'll just go off on another strawman anyway

so, you've changed your mind now? from " nobody foresaw that the EFC players would be banned" to "it could have gone either way"

plenty on demonland did. club must have thought it was a chance.

hehe, next years pick is gonna slide a lot more

apparently all his mates were charged with budgie smuggling but biffo got charged with sparrow smuggling

I wouldn't fret too much, uncle, over biffo's (temporary) absence. I understand he already on a flight back from malaysia after his involuntary detention following a misunderstood attempt of multiculturalism. a much chastened biffo i might add, with a lighter wallet.

hey froggy, we need you to get to work and find out what jesse is up to over there. we want all the details. i know we can count on you

that would be doubly climactic, uncle. definitely a coronary overload to be avoided on sunday. sat night?......well that's a different story

does year 8 mean "school-year-8" i.e. probably under 15's?

nervous times ahead, red. i hope they blitz them in the first quarter for the sake of my blood pressure

so ladyboy shows have gone politically correct too. the world has gone crazy. the stuies are taking over

that is so 70s ethan I believe it's basketballs nowadays that's progress for you

hmm.....bad choice of words......in good faith to whom? but i agree with, did the crime, did the time. everyone gets a 2nd chance and we move on (with or without hard-man wyl)

i think the thread is getting ot and not spefically about milkshake. much of what is being discussed should be in the other essendrug thread

the view that tb4 had no benefit (debatable) on essendon players' performance, and the other view that tb4 should not be a banned substance (also debatable) are complete red herring arguments and have no impact on guilt or otherwise.. the fact is that tb4 was a known wada banned ped at the time essendon injected it to their players in a secretive and undeclared (to wada) fashion, and that the essendon players were contractually obliged to follow the wada drug protocol under threat of banning conditions. it is as simple as that. the rest is obfuscation. the proportionality of guilt between the club officials and the players is an interesting discussion but does not reduce any guilt to zero. the players were ultimately treated leniently in wada punishment terms to effectively 1 playing season. it is also worth noting they rejected the much earlier reported opportunity that would have meant only missing 4 matches. i'm sure cronulla players now feel vindicated they took the deal offered initially for cooperation. added: oh, and incidentally this type of discussion should really be in the other thread

i think they are out of the cap

quite

you're right jesse, got caught in a moment of weakness.

there is nothing contradictory about being performance enhancing and having other desirable medical benefits. why is that such a hard concept to understand? there is also a documented procedure in wada whereby in certain cases and for certain drugs under certain strict conditions, permission can be given to use banned drugs for medical purposes.

you don't give up do you? i didn't realise you were a pharmacologist. it's on the wada banned list as a specific product as a performance enhancing substance, not on the s0 generic category. i know whose expertise i would consider most credible

errr................what about those highlighted ones........they seem more performance enhancing than medical recovery