daisycutter

Macca I know where you are coming from, but you're in danger of your cynicism turning what was intended as a positive statement into a negative By that logic we shouldn't have a best and fairest because it implies the others weren't up to it. Shades of Kirnerism

Macca, I think you might be reading too much into such remarks. There is often too much over-analysis in drafting, its more about having too many football journalists and so many column inches to fill. B) I'm sure the no1, no2 and no3 priority is football ability

truly Pity AD's backtracking is out of self-interest not fair-play

I don't know all the facts but I can't help feeling AD has destroyed the job and reputation of a good person for some misguided political gain. This is not a good example of working toward reconciliation

if that's too hard there is always the shorts or socks or the training gear

They say "More than a Game", well Jim you were "More than a Player".........much, much more I hope the MCC can name a stand after Jimmy, and I'd like to see one of the new bronze statues planned for outside the 'G' to be the "Big Fella"

A sad day. RIP Jimmy. You may have died today, but you will live for all tomorrows in the hearts and minds of millions who will treasure your legacy

why not 2 + 1 ?

Yeah whoever picked first, I'd like to have some of what he's on

or vertebrating ?

he slides but why wouldn't team 17 and 18 bid their first round pick? It's no skin off their nose, they still don't get JV, we still get JV but have to use pick#3 do you think sheeds (or any other club) would do us that sort of favour?

and they love setting excessive examples early in the season. expect butcher to be a scapegoat for 'duty of care' and spinal injury protection

Can't be 11 dee-luded because pick 2 is a compo pick therefore min mid-pick is 12 (assuming no other compo picks for bottom 10)

will this be the first time a team has played with more than half its salary cap out?

Clash of the millionaires......ouch

let me put it this way i will always have hope......but my expectations are really shot to the shizenhausen

like rpfc i had family on both sides of the fence......................a very troubling time, but surely there is little point now in rummaging through the ashes

what, you mean all the B$ ? B)

so you took a quick snapshot at some other sites on the current status means nothing. go to their sites after a loss or a player has a bad day, you are deluding yourself if you think they are substantially different if you went to demonland prior to last years season you would have heard plenty of posters talking of making the eight in 2011 and arguing over when the premiership window was opening Its all relevant to timing, not taking an instant snapshot but you will believe what you want to

just curious 1-how many legit voters were locked out 2-what percentage of these would have voted no versus yes

i share your preseason depression maybe if we start at a low enough level we are inured to further disappointment and any positives will be pleasant surprises but maybe i'm just kidding myself.................. as usual i will turn up to all melb games and be there at the final siren but i can't raise much enthusiasm at the moment i haven't felt this way the last 4 years even knowing we were rebuilding and wouldn't win many games I got my satisfaction watching the development of players. Unfortunately too many are treading water, going backwards or "need another 3-4 years, be patient". the first half of the season this year is tough so i don't expect to be in any better mood come mid season

Thats because you must be on West Coast Time? Anyway, I hope there is less talk of premiership windows and more talk of just stringing a few wins together

you're moving the goal posts a bit here you initially implied the root problem of the club was the 'negativity' of supporters who didn't 'buy in' (whatever that means). As if fixing up this supposed negativity of supporters would swing around the club's fortunes. If what you are really saying now is that we need to increase our revenue and invest more into the football dept then I think most posters here would agree and many have raised this issue for a number of years so there is no reason for you to continue abusing your fellow posters. If you think the 'big' club's supporters are always posting in a positive way then I suggest you spend some time on their forums. You will find they are just as searching and challenging and passionate and emotional as here.

that's one heavy chip you have there doc, but glad to see you are on top of it

I give up. Melbourne was a municipality of Greater Melbourne where people did sleep and had a back yard (small as it may have been) These were the origins (admittedly a long time ago) but it was tribal then Those figures are for residents not workers