Viney12

No, who's seen the contract Scully has been offered? Who's seen the $5m figure over 5 years? No one all we hear is "....tom scully has REPORTEDLY been offered $5m over 5 years"

1/ Players often talk about the big game occasion, crowd noise spurring them on etc. How many times have we seen a team come from behind after the crowd getting involved. I'm sure it plays some part. Look at Essendon the other week against Port, Melbourne a few years ago against Freo in that massive comeback, the crowd noise was amazing and you could see it lift the players 2/ they'll be shell shocked after getting beaten by 100+ points every week, not all will turn out to be good / great, some will leave to other clubs. It ain't as simple as saying they'll win flags 3/ Ours are regarded as some of the best in the comp 4/ or maybe because they have no interest ???????? 5/ Not really, $600k a year for 5 years goes a long way to setting yourself up if managed well. Plus, future earning potential in Vic as a football surely is higher than in NSW after football.

Exactly my point The whole Scully debacle of the year has been full of stabs in the dark, supposition, numerous unnamed sources etc.

No, but who's going to come out looking worse by lying? If it's proven Scully lied, he'll be labelled that way forever If Schwarz is wrong, as rfpc said, he can say he got fed bogus info

1/ Players of course would prefer (for the most part) to play in front of large crowds. Hence why "big games" are often played a higher intensity 2/ Gold Coast were better, but still not great. Without Ablett, Bock, Risca they would've been much worse, all seasoned players. It's looking like GWS won't have this. GC also came in to the comp in a boom draft and cleaned up. This draft where GWS will benefit is meant to be thing. They have also aimed for younger uncontracted players to recruit. They are far more than a year behind GC IMO 3/ Have you seen GWS facilities? do we know they are any better? 4/ not everyone surfs 5/ $600k p.a. for 5 years isn't a lot of money?

Schwarz' comments have been acknowledged, doesn't mean they have to be factual Is everything written / said by a journo truthful? What repercussions have we seen against journo's for getting Walker wrong? None

Seriously, your arrogance is astounding

Davis is being "unveiled" at a presser in Canberra tomorrow

Let's put it in to perspective though It's announced GWS are interested in Scully in Feb? Scully holds a presser in March, at his request, where he denies an approach / discussions In may Stynes states he had a sit down with Tom, Tom told him to his face no approach Scully has maintained he will decide at seasons end A whole lot of rumour, innuendo, speculative journalism follows Positions from some in the media get watery Journos are shown up to be making wrong calls (Carlisle from Port, Walker from Crows) They nail a couple (Ward / Palmer) however, these guys state their decision wasn't cemented until late (Ward says late last week he'd pretty much made up his mind) We hear Scully is going to tour the facilities GWS CEO says its news to him, Tom's been given an offer and is obviously deciding, including talks with Melbourne So surely it's simpler to believe, Scully is merely doing what he said initially, deciding after the season is done Otherwise it's Stynes, Lyon et al. lying to save their / the clubs reputation (which in reality is BS as if anything we'll receive sympathy from many if he does go) AND the GWS management who have all agreed to extend Tom, GWS and the MFC the courtesy of delaying the announcement so we can save Tom face, and the club face and allow them to spread out their marquee signings Maybe you just need to simplify your view of the whole thing

I'm not perturbed by it, not by any stretch Merely trying to demonstrate you are passing it off as fact

Where's that article from?

What about above?

He does try to pass it off as fact - by implying any one who thinks other wise needs to "wake up" or is an "idiot"

Honestly, I think he'd be sad, but I'm sure there'd be another messy story to go along "Tom had signed, GWS checked out his knee, didn't give it the tick, revoked their offer, he begrudginly accepts our offer, he'll be off after Free Agency"

I'm sorry I just don't buy into convulted soap opera conspiracy theories If it makes you happy to believe that's it's been a lie and a web of intrigue and deception etc, the good for you Don't make out like I (and others) are idiots because we choose to subscribe to simpiler theories

So it's now mid week - his commitments to the club are over - why don't we know by now? Is there a set deadline is there where his reputation becomes "safe"

So now the season is over, and Tom's had "some time" to decide, if the club knew, we'd know

I must have missed "Players Good Reputation" part in the list of things taken into account for deciding compensation I thought all I saw was Age / Size and Length of Contract

Yeah Ward and Palmer

Your logic hasn't been sound, in my opinion You've created a vision of a soap opera If Melbourne knew, we'd know. Why would they play along with the so called charade?

Perhaps he doesn't even know I'm still in the gutfeel will stay, open to this possibility he may go, but I don't buy into the tinfoil hat conspiracies I'm firmly in the don't know category

Bingo

Stynes stated that and then about 1 - 2 months later in an article / interview, stated he sat down with Tom, Tom looked him in the eye and he said no decision has been made

His manager stated that there was another club interested, and they would talk to them However, Palmer accepted the GWS offer What possibly could his manager gain by saying another club was interested?

Lynch said a decision will be made by the end of the week