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You will get them as Whispering Jack is there.

Agree, as usual he was courageous. I hope he is not being offered for trade. Lastly, if you did in fact hear that from a Board member's son, then it is disappointing the Board member blabs, also that his son does as well and that you being told, put it on a forum in that form.

He certainly is if you want our players to learn how to urinate on cigarette machines in hotels.

Yes but he was traded.

If this is true then I couldn't imagine it being announced until after our B & F on thursday. It would be just too uncomfortable.

Thanks.

What does MFCSS stand for. Presume it is Melbourne Football Club - -.

I think Jordie actually suffered because we had three other winners and the AFL obviously didn't want to have too many from one team.

Disagree entirely. I have seen him alone at CHF 30-40 metres out several times and is then ignored. That is great considering he is one of the best kicks in the side. Then we see a long bomb to Aussie or someone else with 2 players to beat. I can't understand why it is happening. As for waiving his arms around after being ignored, I haven't seen that and even if it did happen what has it got to do with ignoring the best option seconds earlier?

Good post agree.

Interesting suggestion as he followed the Tigers as a kid, one of their mids has just retired and the man who recruited him to us is with the Tigers.

McLaren umpired very well in his last game. the other two were hopeless. Umpire 14 took a goal off us when Jurrah played on and gave them another when Rivers said soemthing after being denied a blatant free. I note we lost by 10 points, enough said. Umpire 31 was just plain bad.

Herald Sun saying Watts close to a 2 year deal with the Dees and that we won't lose any of our top players to the Suns. Good news.

Thirded.

Yes.

PJ to me has two major weaknesses, his marking and keeping his feet. If he was able to improve both he would give himself a better chance. I think he will get another year just for the fact that we are light on for ruckmen. Gawn is coming off a major injury and is untried as is Fitzpatrick who is also physically a way off and Spencer is still unproven. If Jamar goes down we are in big trouble.

Also he will be 28 soon, may be past his best and is wanting a lot of money and a long contract, something only the Suns may be willing to provide.

Still gathering my thoughts on the whole situation. However in response to your post that he never tested positive Adrian Anderson hinted that it might not be the case. He referred specifically to no positive test on match days but was very guarded about out of match day testing". It left the distinct impression that Ben had in fact tested positive on non match day tests but that he was not at liberty to discuss that. One other aspect I would like to comment on at this time. It was stated by the CEO of the drug organization that drug users have a health problem and should be treated as ill people and nothing else and basically not condemned for their behaviour at all. While that is true if they become addicted, it is illegal to take drugs and the first time you take them you are not an addict, that is a choice decision that you make. You are deciding to break the law, risk health problems etc.etc. which at that point unless you are suffering from another illness, you are doing of your own free will. For that I believe you should stand condemned. That of course does not mean that you shouldn't be helped, but I think we need to acknowledge the reason you are in that situation if we wish to deter others. It is the reason the Courts have removed the drunk defence in some crimes, because people have to take responsibility for their actions. If you choose to drink and then drive you can't say I drove because I was drunk. Clearly this is a very complex issue, to complex for me, but while we help those that are affected we must do more to stop potential victims. Lastly on a different issue, Sam Newman on the Footy Show viciously attacked 7 for showing the documentary and hid behind the argument that 9 would have done it better. I thought this was another real lowpoint in his career and his behaviour nothing short of disgraceful. The others seemed very embarrassed.

There are certainly some big names retiring this year. Adelaide has so many they will not have to delist anyone to have several picks in the draft.

I would be happy with whatever method is used to get one, develop our own, trade, draft, as long as we end up with one. My thread is not necessarily about getting one from somewhere else if we have one or two to develop, it is about the need to have one in the forward line now to assist the lighter bodies.

Story on Demonology with link to ABC site that says Suns are considering Miller. Brad may be very happy that I sat next to Shaun Hart on a flight back to Melbourne from the Gold Coast, after Brad's BOG against the Suns for Casey and pumped up his tyres to Hart the whole flight. Also wouldn't have hurt that in the return game he bagged 10 for another BOG.

I would have my money on Chip.

Whatever anyone thinks about this topic there is one fact that can't be argued against and that is the top 4 sides all have 2 or more big bodied players in their forward lines. Dawes, Cloke and Brown himself for the Pies, Mooney, Pods and Hawkins for the Cats, Nick and Kosi for the Saints and Hall and Hahn for the Dogs. Now hit those keyboards those of you who think we don't need at least one.

You mean junior's brother Anthony who played 104 games for us.

Don't think my personal "disappointment" equates to " us kicking ourselves ". Nevertheless in a couple of years I will see if I am still disappointed and if we should be kicking ourselves.