Redleg

Not happening.

We would do that wouldn’t we? A 3 pick drop and we keep 27.

Well I suppose the danger is Freo could get 11 for Lobb and give back North F 2nd and Dogs could do that, as only about a 7-8 pick drop and use it next year in a strong draft. We then lose chance at North F2nd.

Thanks Ivan, I must say the points system confuses me.

We are not worried about the PSD, we are just discussing why the deal will go through eventually. I now think we will get North F2 as well as 13 and Freo F1 and have to accept it.

Correct and we know he won’t want to come back and play at North, so it’s a free go at picks by them, in a trade the next year. He would be furious with Freo, as would his manager and other players and managers would be very concerned about committing to Freo.

Why not? At worst they are getting future picks. It’s a smart play. If he puts a ridiculous figure on his head, North complain about draft tampering and the AFL would bend over for them, given their situation, with a new North rule. It would be a way to give them picks, but not as priority picks. He goes on their list and if he stays in WA, they simply trade him the next year. If they don’t, he is an Eagle.

If the picks we swapped were worth pick 14, I wonder why we didn’t just give them to Pies to use in other deals.

He doesn’t have to say it, everyone knows it. North would take him and even if he refused to play, they could trade him the next year and would get likely more than we are being offered atm. LJ wouldn’t want that and so if we can’t do a deal he probably stays for another season and tries again the next year when Bell has left. This may be what makes Freo blink.

Or they have been told it’s only Freo.

But of that list, only LJ and Farmer left when we wanted them to stay.

Cadman will be at North or GWS, end of story.

LJ doesn’t want to go into the PSD, as he will end up at North. I think he would rather come back to us for a year. Tell Freo we do the deal fairly, or he will be coming back to us for a year or longer.

Over all their trades.

Mackie at Geelong doing a Bell/Dodoro and other clubs are getting p-ssed off.

He came on a 4 year contract and has played 3, that leaves 1 year doesn't it?

We gave 2 and 18 for White and 22. White had played 32 games to LJ's 50 and with a flag and rising star and far superior stats all around, LJ is a mile ahead of White at this stage. White wasn't even a regular in the Freo side, playing 32 games in 3 years. We gave them Pick 2 and a 4 pick upgrade, for a far lesser player than LJ , at that stage.

But could that contract be renegotiated if he got to Freo, after say a year?

Things are getting nasty in the Dunkley standoff. Maybe we should be looking at destabilising Freo, like they have done to us, if we end up getting shafted in the LJ deal. The Bulldogs will turn their attention to attempting to poach a Lions player along with a future first round pick if the Lions cannot find a way to satisfy their demands.

I don't think we can presume that either. One club will blink. I am now suspecting we are being bent over big time. It's sounding like we will get 13 and maybe 13 next year and if Freo blinks, North's future 3rd, though obviously North's future 2nd would be much better.

He is not a free agent, he is an uncontracted player. If he goes in the PSD we get nothing, but it appears he won't do that, thankfully.

WCE are still 2nd in the PSD, even if they give away 2 in the ND. If he goes into the PSD, it will be North who may be happy just to have him a year to trade or WCE. He won't get to Freo. But we will get nothing.

And if he did, North could afford to accept any conditions he applies and then he is their player, to trade in another year.

My post above yours said he was on $500k with one year to go and I suggested 2 years at say $350k being $700k, which would be fair for a key Defender.

Eagles looking at giving 2 to North, in a deal to get JHF and Rioli to Port with them getting Port's 8 and F1st. They think they will get the boy they want at 8, likely Reuben Gibney from WA. That just puts them out of the LJ trade and we are left fighting with Freo. Not looking flash for us atm. I would also back North to use 2 on Cadman.