Its Time for Another

2 minutes ago, Demonland said:

Wow I've just watched him kick 8 in a row. Exactly the same every time. Not going to miss that shot this year. 

50 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Well this is exact why I asked because he did post a insta story of himself a few days ago in a 4 wheel drive on what looked like a beach in Perth.

Very strange time to be away from Pre Season training as it reaches it's final peak. Hope it's not a Go Home Factor already. Hopefully the 4 wheel drive pic is old. 

On 2/10/2023 at 4:39 PM, Demon Jack said:

 

Such an incredible set of highlights and that was just the goals. He's right up there with the best of all time IMHO. 

I'm not going to waste any emotional energy getting worked up about if he stays or goes. There's nothing any of us can do about it. I thank Scully for teaching me that no player is irreplaceable or worth getting worked up about. He turned into Hogan turned into May. Life goes on. But having said that what a player. Ever since I saw his pre draft highlights he has reminded me of Cyril Rioli. So I did a little bit of picking. Here's some stats to compare them. 

                           Kosie                    Cyril.                Kosie                    Cyril                  Kosie                    Cyril

Year                    1                             1                         2                          2                          3                          3

Games             14                            25                      25                         19                       23                          20

Goals  (Av)         7 (0.5)                  24 (1.0)             40 (1.6)                21 (1.1)            41 (1.8)                 27 (1.4)

Tackles (Av)     35 (2.5)                 87 (3.5)            87 (3.5)                 89 (4.7)             62 (2.7).               98 (4.9)

Some very interesting comparisons. The one that stands out for me as I always thought Kossie's defence work and tackling was way ahead of Cyril. Wrong. Also interesting that Kossie's tackling dropped off last season. But Kossie is clearly a much more substantial goal scorer than Cyril who kicked 42 in his 8th year and 47 in his 9th year. 

7 hours ago, Sir Why You Little said:

The Players Canteen area could easily be a Social Club after match facility,when needed 

The days of drinking 30 pots and driving home are over

 

Speak for yourself. My first ever day at the cricket was the 1975 Boxing Day test. I was driven there in the back of a panel van. No seat no seat belts in those days. The guys I went with took their own esky. You could do that back then. It might even have been two and drank the contents dry. Then having sat in the sun all day drinking probably 30 cans each they got in the panel van and drove home. No breath tests in those days. Ahhh the good old days. Have to admit I never did anything like that again. 6 kids in my school year died in car accidents in the first year out of school. I  have never been a drink driver.

Sorry I digress. Back to training bases. 

14 hours ago, rpfc said:

What’s with this ‘a home base for us all!!’ Nonsense?

It is an effing training and admin co-location. It’s not going to be a social club that you can have a $3 beer at like you may have thought you did in the 70s. That is not happening. 

So it is really about having control of a training base near Brunton Ave that we have this predisposition to ascertain. Meanwhile we have two sets of elite facilities, one of which is going to continue to have money poured into it 45 mins out at Casey. In a growth corridor where actual people live - if we care about that.

So we have our priorities right - having a competitive team to, you know, do the raison d’être of being a football club; WINNING FLAGS.

Our current facilities allow us to take time getting this decision oh so right - and we won’t have to rush into a decision to get our admin and FD into the same building closer to Brunton Ave to not talk to each other…

You make some interesting points. 

There's a bit of a misconception that the facilities we are using now are substandard. As I understand it that's not correct. They are both excellent and the Club has spent $100's of thousands in the past couple of years updating the equipment at AAMI as well as the new facilities at Casey. Keep in mind that if we've put in that sort of money we are one of 3 or 4 clubs contributing to that investment at AAMI. So a lot of money has been spent there. 

When Richard Colless was the Swans President he put a syndicate together and they bought a property in the hear of Kings Cross and did it up as the Swans Social Club. It was quite impressive. You'd be very happy if it was a Demons Social Club. It was never supported by the Swans members and supporters and ended up closing and was a financial disaster. A lot of us have had a fantasy about having a permanent Social Club but II agree with you it might be no more than a fantasy that would be a financial disaster. I can't see why we can't set up a room like the Jim Stynes room at the G as a social Club post games. I doubt many people will turn up to the MCG precinct outside of game days. 

The main benefit will be getting the Admin and FD under the one roof. I hope it's on the AAMI car park overlooking Gosch's. That would be my pick. Otherwise like others I suspect it's more likely to end up in the new Sthn Stand. Facilities for the club and for MCC members and possibly the public in some form. 

42 minutes ago, Diamond_Jim said:

I hope we have a better plan than we did for Jackson.

Genuine question. What better plan do you think the Club could have had for Jackson. Obviously it was a dud trade but what better trade do you think could have been achieved. They didn't have any better picks to offer. Similarly Port don't have a first rounder in this draft. They'll have to give up something serious to get a first rounder this year. Next year's first rounder won't do it. I hope. Surely they'd have to lose a player or players to make it happen this trade period. I'm sure the Club has tried very hard to avoid another Jackson circus so you'd have to think that's been a fail and the writing is on the wall. 

55 minutes ago, BDA said:

Injuries aside the Saints are typically useless and undependable. I'm pinning my hopes on the Lyon effect. He'll want to put one over the dockers so he just might coax a performance of his team.

On 1/12/2023 at 7:55 PM, Bring-Back-Powell said:

I can see Jackson kicking off his Freo debut with a 2022 esque performance of 8 possessions/1 mark/0 goals against St Kilda prompting a 40 page discussion on the Freo Bigfooty forum on whether they over paid.

You could be right. Of course the traditional Lyon gameplan involves camping 18 players in the backline. 

21 hours ago, BDA said:

A loss to St Kilda round 1, Lyon will be eager to get one over on them. Some injuries, loss of confidence. Seasons can turn peear-shaped quite easily with a bit of bad luck. Hoping Freo don’t have the rub of the green at all this year.

Wouldn't be counting on the Saints round 1, they are going to be cruelled with injuries the first part of the season and will probably struggle to recover. 

8 hours ago, Bystander said:

Hmmm....you can't tell her to enjoy her trip?

Yep. I could. That would certainly free up a lot of my time permanently. 
The good news is it's now late May not Sept. So Premiership mission back on track. And marriage. 😎

18 hours ago, Lucifers Hero said:

@Its Time for Anotherdo you still have the contact in 'Memberships' at the club to obtain the latest figure - it seems they have forgotten to update it to this year.

 

ps Really like your name change.  Agree: Its Time for Another!!

Hi Luci I just rang the membership number. No specific contact. They were always happy to give me the current number. 
it took 13 years on here for my originall name It's Time to become redundant. I'm still basking in that glory. But it's nice to think about another. Although my wife wants to go O/S next Sept the only time she'll be free so I could still miss actually seeing one. 

3 hours ago, djr said:

Sestan looks so short. That said he is the same height as John Nicholls. How times change.

Not quite. He's listed as 186cm Nicholls 189cm which wasn't necessarily that  short for even his era. '68 GF Don McKenzie his Dons opponent in the ruck was 188cm. 1970 GF Graeme Jenkins 193cm.  

Does he already have players in mind for our picks in next year's draft.

Has Hogan and now Jackson going home to WA impacted decisions on recruiting WA players if talent etc is even. Did it impact the decision not to take Allen. 

Did the intended move to a tactical sub have any impact on the makeup of the list and the recruiting

1 hour ago, Demonland said:

When talking about Sestan’s fitness it should be fair to note that he is not coming from an elite pathway program where the fitness base is already there. Also just because he came last in a 2km time trial against other draftees from pathway programs and AFL footballers who are on off season programs doesn’t mean he is “unfit”. It just means he doesn’t have the AFL base that is expected at this time of the year for players or elite draftees. It also does not mean that he cannot achieve this now that he will be given a fitness program to follow. 

Considering that training with an elite AFL club was probably not on his radar I think he can be cut some slack. 

Spare a thought for this kid for a minute. One week up at schoolies the very next without any prior warning running around against the most elite athletes in the country and having no fitness base to be able to keep up. I know the feeling of trying to keep up with fit athletes when you're not. It's excruciating. It's going to be a tough summer for him catching up. They'll really have to nurse him psychologically as well as physically. It would break many young men. Wouldn't surprise me to hear that he's got a different fitness training to the main group until at least after the Christmas break. 

10 hours ago, fr_ap said:

Take that Freo 

They probably will in two years. 

11 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Sheesh those MFC highlights are pretty impressive. 

Reminds me a lot of Tom Stewart. 

Reminds me a lot of Petty. I'd be very happy with a Petty Stewart hybrid. 

7 minutes ago, Dee-licious said:

Sen? Or fox? Would love to listen. 

He was on afl.com.au a few minutes ago. 

5 minutes ago, djr said:

Why can’t he be groomed to play key forward? His contested marking is very impressive and seems to read the game well. We have Disco to groom yas a key back. Many options. 

JT was just saying he has played key forward. 

2 hours ago, Diamond_Jim said:

I suspect you're right

Freo has given Port the play book... Pick 16 anyone??

Except Port have already given away their first rounder next year so at this point have nothing to offer. 

One has to assume that the Club has done everything it could to get him to extend his contract before entering what is now the final year of his contract. I'm sure they would have preferred to have avoided another Jackson like circus but here we are again. Can't help feeling he's gone. 

I'm no mathematician but I have heard of the law of averages and based on that law surely we are due to finally draft a successful key position forward. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't believe we've ever drafted a key forward that's gone on to have a career. Lyon and Schwarz didn't come in through the draft. Neiter was recruited as a back and started his career back before going forward out of necessity when Lyon retired. Robbo was brilliant but not a key forward. I didn't realise Neiter like Robbo was from Tassie. T Mac was recruited as a back. 

The only key forwards I can think of that MFC have drafted are not in order Newton, Molan Cook, Weideman and now Jefferson. My genius mathematical brain tells me statistically we are clearly due for Jefferson to be a Coleman medal winning success. 

30 minutes ago, Slartibartfast said:

Grundy in 6, Hunter 12 and Schache 19.

AMW and Smith running reps, Grundy, Fritta and TMac all doing drills with running interspersed.  Tmac looked totally unhindered and was doing the warmup kicking drills.

I didn't see Harmes, Lever, Brayshaw, Gawn, Oliver, Lingers, Melk, Tomlinson, Dunstan, ANB, Petty, Brown and Smith.  I didn't see Taj either but he may have been there.  

Usual warmups, then ball movement drills on 3/4 ground.  Had to leave earlier than expected unfortunately so that's about all I saw.  Spoke to AMW very briefly and he said he'd added 8 kilos and was 182 but still growing.  He's got an infectious smile and personality. Hoping for really big things from him.

Wow! A training report from Goschs. How long has it been. Thanks @Slartibartfast and any others that can make it to training over the coming summer. Reports always gratefully received from those of us who can't make it. 

I know it's laughable to make any comments off photos but....... his kicking action in that photo looks like someone who knows how to kick a footy. While he might look skinny from my point of view he also looks pretty cut for an 18 yr old. Skin folds already look pretty good. He doesn't look like he's coming in from a zero base like some other Rookie B's I've seen. 

21 hours ago, Balance Demon said:

Jason and the team are sensational. More credit needs to applied to Tim Lamb- what a stright shooter- never waivers from getting the job done.

I've never fully understood who actually does the player and pick trading. I think most of us gave Mahoney the credit for it in his time at MFC but is that right was it Tim Lamb doing the negotiating even then. In fact is it Tim Lamb doing it now. I assume JT and team go out and find the talent and then it's over to TL and team to negotiate. Anyone know how it works. 

3 minutes ago, DubDee said:

Will add to confusion, the closest umpire being overruled incorrectly and thin the talent pool of umpires further

OR

Keep it 3, make them professional, create a career path, increase quality of umpiring

A Talking Heads song comes to mind in response to this post. 

Does anyone know how this is going to work when they disagree. Who's decision is followed.