Howard_Grimes

Thank you for my essay feedback, Sir. Did I pass? But srsly, I disagree. I'm talking meaningful change. Kosi was always going to run through the middle at some stage for example. I don't count new draftees who come in to play as 'change'. That happens at every club. There was little meaningful list and positional change. The list needed to change quicker, bigger pieces needed to be moved. And especially so through the midfield and half forward. That didn't happen. I mentioned our forward 50 connection. You didn't mention that? How can that one thing not change over that amount of time? What do you put it down to and why? And for the tactical talk, we have long brought an extra up to stoppage leaving the opp with an extra in our forward line. That's what I meant. That continued long after 666. Even this year. And again, it took him a long time to change.

I'm not trying to follow you around and get in a [censored]-for-tat. But. I think the difference in thought from posters like Gonzo, others and myself and you and the pro Goody camp probably come down to gamestyle. And whilst I agree he made significant change to our ball movement strategy (which all coaches have to do at some stage given the evolution of the game), would it be fair to say that in areas like selection, positional change, gameday tactical moves, he did not change much? I think one of the biggest pieces of evidence that Goodwin didn't change in some of those areas I mentioned is our forward 50 entry. Now genuine change to that particular metric would have needed to come from more than just a change from ball movement from our backhalf. It would have required positional and personnel changes across the midfield and half-forward. And as we know, that never happened. He did not change in those areas enough. Not nearly aggressive or proactive enough at changing the look of our forward-line or midfield. And the consistent selection of underperfoming senior players over the years was further evidence of his reluctance to change. Gameday tactical change. Something we also rarely/if ever saw. And his record against tactically sound coaches is evidence of that. Whether it was sticking to his guns when opposition coaches knew to play a plus one behind the ball whilst Goody would keep the plus one around the ball, refusing to run with opposition players who ultimately had far too much influence on the game or dying moments of close games where his positional moves were too late. There's plenty there. And again, if posters put a share of the blame on the players for some of those points. I'd like to hit back and say that ultimately, Goody is still the one to decide whether or not those players should be getting games or not. ESPECIALLY the *connection' issue. If they're not getting it done, move them. He didn't. And here we are. We were banging our heads against the wall for years with the same issues. And that lies at the feet of Goodwin. Not enough change occurred, that was clear as day.

Thanks for your knowledge and investment Chocco! The dominoes begin..

We have some quality, but I agree that demonlanders underestimate the amount of talent that so many other clubs have. Which again, as I've said make this off-season absolutely enormous in regards to what we do with certain underperfoming senior players.

I respect the big fella big fella. But Buckley is the one.

We have some great young potential. Unfortunately so do more than a handful of other clubs and we need to add to this crop with another bumper draft hand or two over the next two years. Which makes this off-season the most fascinating yet.

Ahhh Adam my son. This always seems to happen. You take snippets of my posts, exaggerate to the shizen and form your own story, trying to hem me in. Get ready to read my words. I think some* senior players need to go. I think some* senior players need to stay. I think Buckley has more pull for some of the senior players that I think have great upside and that I'd like to stay at the club like Trac. I also think we'd be a more attractive potential home for players like Jackson if there is still a possibility of him leaving as well as others.. I think that this off-season will also be very important in securing picks for a player like Jackson if that is still on and/or having ammunition going into this year/next years draft which will also be super important for regenerating this list with high end talent. Please read and thank you.

Got to have it in some part of the club!

Yes, I'd say you are missing some* compelling reasons. The same compelling reasons that forced the club you so dearly love to get on the front foot, meet with him twice during the year and now have him as front runner to coach the club. Not sure, just throwing it out there.

Clearly you don't get it so let's leave it eh?

Haha, if you think we don't have a greater chance of keeping senior players that may be weighing up their options by naming someone like Buckley because of his standing in the game, the fact he made multiple finals appearances and was within an inch of a flag, ie (aura), then you well and truly do have your head in the sand.

The nuffs that are against Buckley cause he didn't deliver them a flag are unbearable.

And yet in 22' and 23' we finished top 4. So again, I'm not sure what exactly those last 5 matches are telling us from a 'what actually matters' perspective? Not a lot. But each to their own, I guess some people need to find the joy somewhere from this season.

I mean. What about the 5 games before that in isolation? And the 5 before that? Etc etc. And what about the overall picture?

Old enough.

Where have you been all my life.

Excepppppttttt the club did the opposite? Hows that going for you?

I saw him kick a couple of right foot kicks that were arguably better than what Viney, Trac and Oliver dish up on their preferred. He'll be fine cobba.

I think supporters need to look closer at Oliver. Yeh, he's fitter than last year. So his 'impact' at a contest, ability to get to more and his defensive running are better than last year. Which is a positive. But when you hear posters say he an 'inside monster' and he's getting back to his 'inside best', what exactly does that mean? Well. It's all well and good being able to win the pill in a contested situation. And Oliver has improved on that this year. What he hasn't improved on, one single bit, is his ability to distribute the ball either cleanly or to the right player. And many times, the ball simply bobbles out from his hands when he is tackled which doesn't even count on a stats sheet. Yet it is taken away by an oppo player from inside to out and anything can happen. This is not about [censored] on a player. It's about supporters actually watching closely and the club taking this seriously. If you look at the best inside mids in the comp, their ability to distribute the ball cleanly and to the right player under high pressure is there. At the peak of Oliver's powers, he could also do this. I'm talking handball. But now? No. Again, please go through replays. I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but the amount of times he doesn't grab it cleanly or he handballs blindly etc is just wild. And given his lack of positional flexibility, this is a massive issue. And a huge decision needs to be made at the end of the year. Because regardless of the bias on here. You cannot be paying that amount of money for a player with that kind of output going forward. Take the goggles off. Trac is a different case. More dynamic. Different reasons as to why he's had a down year. More positional flexibility and someone who I think we keep. Oliver and Viney going forward with modern day footy in '26? Christ.

Still would much prefer him in defence. Hopefully we move May on over the off-season and play players in positions that they're natural in. We can't keep playing two swingmen at CHF and FF. It's ridiculous. Gunston gave our side a master class on leading patterns and forward craft. Yes it can be improved upon but we miss a natural key forward with great leading patterns. It does so much more for the functioning of the forward 50.. Van Rooyen for all his great athletic traits is not a natural forward. He doesn't have natural forward craft, he is an average contested mark at best and his positioning in contests is all over the place. And Petty looks twice the player when he's playing D50. Whoever comes in as coach needs to completely rejig this part of the ground because it is detrimental to our entire forward 50 function having those two playing as our main kp players.

Wonder how the Jackson situation is looking.. And if Freo lose to the Dogs next week means we'll start hearing some more about it.. I still think if he leaves his pref would be us, we'd obviously have to lose a big name to acquire the picks to trade for him though..

Favourite player already.

Fair enough Binners, let's call it. No more baiting.

But you say it's a huge factor when it suits you realise? Which is why it's so silly and inconsistent. We've spiked off shorter breaks just as we've dipped. We've spiked off byes just as we've dipped. I don't know what 'huge' factor equates to percentage-wise in your eyes. To think that that Collingwood's inside 50 dominance for periods of that match is down to 'mainly' fitness on Adelaide's part is simply wrong. I say 'mainly' because you're saying 'huge'. And there can only be one 'huge' factor if there are other factors also involved I'd have thought? You've already decided it's fitness. So you look for the patterns within games and use that as evidence for the fitness argument. Collingwood's dominance in inside 50 came from several factors. To say one is bigger than another is ridiculous. An opinion. But a ridiculous one. I mean the fitness argument is complex enough in itself and there are another long list of factors that can affect 'fitness' as I've discussed before.

Unfairly banned as my fellow demonland favourites can attest to! I love the club. Even though we're bordering on rabble-town again.