Deelectable

Tom Morris might be sufferable if he could ever provide one scintilla of hard evidence. "Petracca wants out of Melbourne ". You know this? How? Can you tell us your sources? Of course not. Have you spoken to Christian directly? I'm putting a lot of money on a negative answer. Anyone can throw something out there with nothing concrete to back it up. I actually had some empathy for this bloke when he lost his job. Not much but a bit. Somehow now he has been elevated in status and is at the forefront of an overwhelming amount of football media. Boorish.

Was Caleb Windsor at the game?

Yes I can. I will wager any amount you care to nominate.

Tholstrup- very harsh assessment

It would be really nice if people fully understood and recognised that Petracca,Oliver and Viney are going nowhere. Fact. Full stop!!

One does have to chuckle. Media= club in crisis, Oliver, Petracca and Viney all going. Early gameday thread goes into meltdown . Rabble, club asunder, sack the coach, no game plan, trade most players. Now, the Suns are not world beaters but we are the only interstate club to beat them on their own dung hill. Correction. Destroyed them! Not sure who is more overeactive. The media or those on this site. Our upside is huge. Trac, Clarry and Jack going nowhere. Trade period will be active. Likely top 10 pick. Young 0layers developing at the rate of knots. With a modicum of good fortune we'll be up to our necks in it in 2025!

Understand why SEN dumped him and Mark Allen. Amateur hour.

'Has lost faith in the direction of the club'. Please tell me you're not referring to David Schwarz? Loved him as a player but as a pundit/ ex player he is clueless. I've lost track of the number of times he's made sweeping statements such a this with nothing to back it up. Non story.

Where did I say 'celebrating'? Awesome effort is an entirely different thing. Interesting also that clubs and players in particular can't win. If they play through injury the club is negligent. Conversely, if they don't get on the field they're accused of being weak and not toughing it out. Kane Cornes has potted Nick Cox and Todd Marshall for being soft and not cut out for the game. Lose, lose.

Not just the coach but also the club. Sounds to me like your giving the likes of Tom Morris more kudos than the aforementioned. I think I have a modicum of intelligence to look at something for what it is. Goodwin was emphatic about Petracca and Oliver. Case closed.

Would like to have a sizeable wager on Oliver and Petracca lining up in round one next year? Barring unforeseen injury there is a greater likelihood of that happening than the sun coming up in the morning!

We watched a difference press conference. I think you had your volume turned down.

Here, here. I have posted similar on another thread. What a champion of the game. Last time I looked he was still our highest disposal gatherer for the season. Many players would have put the cue in the rack. Outstandingly brave effort. 4 time best and fairest and in the conversation for our greatest ever. Yet still there are those on here that delight in getting stuck into him. I'm not a 'happy clapper' when it comes to players but when it come to the great Clayton Oliver I have nothing but the upmost admiration. Even more so given his pre season turmoil. If you don't you're not a true Demon.

If this crosses over other threads so be it. Thought Goodwin's press conference today was simply outstanding. Eloquent, precise, informative and measured. Put to bed any of the media nonsense in a no frills manner. Petracca and Oliver staying. What a surprise! Outlined that all footy clubs have their frustrations, debates and times of angst. It's called human nature. This is not true only in the AFL but all footy clubs in this country. Our mate Tom Morris was back pedalling at a rate of knots and was noticeably quieter throughout proceedings. For those who believed a word this 'person' said well, it's just embarrassing. Finally, the revelations re Clarry were stark. We find now he has been playing with a busted hand, knee and a cracked rib. What an awesome effort from a guy who many said would never play for the club again. To all those people in the media and those on this site who mercilessly got stuck into Oliver hang your collective heads in shame. He is a champion of the club and one of the all time greats in the history of the game. He will be back bigger and better than ever. Once again well done Simon.✔️

If people catastrophise in their personal lives like they do on this this site they have my deepest sympathy. Fair dinkum!

Really looking forward to the trade period. Our finals series!!

I'm not always in agreement with you Binman but extremely well said. Given all the circumstances I would go as far to say this was one of our very best performances on and off the field for the season. TBH I was expecting a horror show. Port are current flag favourites. Dumped Swans by 20 goals. Effed if I know what people expect! It has been the season from hell for multiple reasons. Only exceeded by the horror show of 2019. Never like losing but that was palatable. Our endeavour with little to play for was first class despite being so undermanned. . Some may not agree but the consolation was a better spot in the draft. I was downcast for 5 mins after the game until reality set in. Well done Demons!

Agreed . According to some on here we did a million things wrong, half the team are spuds with a terrible game plan. Quite incredulous to think that we lost by a kick to arguably the premiership favourites who were missing few. Can you imagine if we got all the aforementioned right? Wow! I for one was rapt with the performance. The endeavour, desire and aggression were first class.

Isn't there also the matter of Lombard and Ashcroft that could shunt us further back? To add insult to injury if we likely finish higher than StKilda there is the Josh Battle compo to be concerned about. Nevertheless a top 10 is huge!

Also what do wild pigs have to do with going for a premiership?🐖

Enjoy being glass half empty if that excites you. Of course Brayshaw's loss is still a major issue. Not only a top premiership player, 3rd in the Brownlow but we had no opportunity to replace him. To a lesser extent the same with Smith. No star but easily our best forward in last year's final series. I found the game a fascinating watch with high pressure applied. If 20 goals each is your thing good luck to you. Pointless listing all the things that have gone wrong for us this as you'll only shoot them down.

Impossible to fathom the negativity of many on here re last nights loss. Just a friendly reminder that we had multiple stars missing, one down on form, late withdrawals through illness, others obviously hampered and coming up against a premiership contender now second on the ladder with few injuries that smashed the ladder leading Swans by 20 goals last week. Seriously, what were people expecting.l? I for one was delighted. Billings or Thostrup kick either goal and we win. Decisions went against us. A number of players showed plenty. With not much to play for the spirit, aggression and pressure was immense. We lost by a kick. Take a reality check. Suns won. We drop to 13th. Losing never good but this was the next best thing.

Very tough assessments there indeed. Thought Turner, Lever and Sparrow were all very good contributors. The pile on of Clarry is obscene.

Really hoping that Clarry and Viney put on ice. Jack was enormous early but faded. I suspect both require surgery so do it now. I'd add Max to that list but not happening.

Actually make that 13th on the ladder and if the Saints win tomorrow and pull off another surprise that's pick 6 notwithstanding academy intervention. Huge!!