WiseDeeMan

What people miss in this stuff is the power of having great people and leaders at the club. Something we have lacked in. It's not just match day that counts, it's the leadership and development of the younger guys, training standards throughout the week, team meetings etc. Plus if its for nothing in exchange, he's great insurance for onfield.

Just had it confirmed from the Suns side “the deal” will go through and Trac will be a suns player next year - I didn’t ask much more out of respect, even though I’m ****ty I didn’t! My gut feel was it will be picks in exchange.

I woke at 5 : 19 am this morning. It's a sign. Lock him in

any mole timeline updates @demonforever ?

I also find it interesting how upset people are that we are trading him. He almost single handedly derailed the entire club and our potential opportunity to win multiple flags. It's well documented that Goodwin and co gave him special treatment for a long long time to the detriment of club culture (he got away with what most would not), and tolerated what should not have been. Im sure everyone wished nothing but the best, but King coming in it has to be goodbye to all the culture killers.

Not getting picked and playing

Yes he would but the wording I heard was too "the right club". I have no idea what that means. I also have no idea if we have asked the question to either his manager or the suns.

Can confirm Walter is very much disgruntled at the Suns, and would entertain a move to the right club. I have heard from several people in the know up here. One very credible source in particular. Be interesting if we entertain this move if Humphrey doesn't work out?

I thought the same…only @demonforever can confirm

Great intel @demonforever For me the only elephant in the room with this is will GC let go of him? He’s contracted and I can’t see why they would want to? I want them to, I just can’t see they will. Any intel on that part of the equation?

Let’s be honest everyone - a poor man’s Jake Bowey anyway

Another layer to add to this is also the Geelong side of it. You all of a sudden have the head coach of an opposition team with full access to your club still. The way I see it, is it speaks volume of the character of King and the culture of Geelong that he wanted to see it out. In almost all other situations the new coach has left the team playing deep into September to hang out to dry somewhat. Something I've always thought is a massive disadvantage, and frankly unfair. To me it shows his integrity and how strong of a club Geelong is that he wants to stay there with them to finish what he's started.

Lots of hypotheticals here so let's go with it....It's pretty obvious he isn't 100% invested in the club. I think we are actually in a fantastic position with this and have all the bargaining power. We've shown we are willing to hold him to his contract for starters. Secondly, that's now forced him to open up and realise if he is to get a "clean start", unless the club can get something in return, they won't trade him. For me the GC are the club we should be pursuing to do a deal with. Draft picks mean a totally different thing to them as it does to Victorian Clubs. They know they are going to continue to get high talent through their academy. From our perspective, we have to keep in mind we have 2 more year of draft before Tassie come in and its compromised. We need to load up on young talent now in my view. Whilst i think Langford will be a star, Lindsay looks like he could be the same, Windsor is promising, I don't think anything else is certain. I like Kolt, but have not seen anything yet that has shown me he is going to make it. If we somehow can get 3-4 first round picks in the next 2 drafts we are well set up if we nail another 3 of the 4. The GC have pick 6, 13, 16, future firsts and Flanders to play with, while we have Trac, pick 23, and some late picks for their academy bids. I cannot see any other club getting us anything remotely as good as that, unless we are part of a 3 club trade to land a fish of similar value to Trac. If we want WIN / WIN, Suns look like the best option (at this stage!). Exciting times

Guerra said on Radio this morning - we will move forward with our “TWO” assistant coaches. Assuming 1 is definitely leaving… We’ve heard Richmond are into Chaplin Has anything been announced?

Agree @binman …I’ve been fortunate to train with many elite level athletes including many Olympians. I’ve been in squads that have had Olympic athletes, athletes that weren’t quite at that level, and others that were no where near it. Same coach, same message, same program, yet some were multiple Olympic Gold medalists, and others - nobodies. So what was the difference? I mean yes we can talk physical advantages - but I can largely say its application (mindset). Willing to push themselves more than anyone else. Day in day out. Never excuses. With the down days, the drop off is minimal. I vividly remember one morning, one of Australia’s greatest athletes that everyone would know, pushing himself so much he projectile vomited. Took a few deep breaths and then went again for the next rep of the main set. While most others in the squad, were just not willing to go to that level (maybe they were the sensible ones!). There is an interesting paradox however - This particular coach here, would either make or break athletes. He had Olympic Gold Medalists, but would burn out a hundred other athletes to get that 1. The art of being a great coach in any area, is being able to effectively influence each athlete, or in this case, player. It’s the ability to get the most out of each individual, not just a portion. To know what buttons to push. And that is a different skill set than the programming piece. Purely an opinion from the outside here, but based on what ive seen (relying on footage) - this is where Burgess seems elite. It’s the ‘coach’ side of him that gets the buy in from each and every player. This is where the gold lies in my view. We had mental toughness about us at that time. From what I see currently - we now don’t. Whether this is all tied together here, I do not know, but my guess is it is. Time will tell…