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No way that's massive - we should have showered you with Gatorade in the middle of the circle!

I know it's the Melskham thread - but I really like Kennedy. He's a great competitor. His kicking penetration really stood out to me in QBW match - twice he kicked very long to Hogan to create goals, once in the 3rd for a Hogan mark, and in the last resulting in a goal to Watts

Played his best footy at the western end - coincidence?

I think Hogan would be a massive loss and I'm 100% behind keeping him at the club. But ... If he is determined to return to Perth then the way the Dockers year has unfolded has significantly improved our market position. They will finish bottom 3, not top 4. if it has to happen we need to make it happen THIS year while that pick is there and they are not trying to improve their position. I think the market would be 2016 and 2017 1st rounder and possibly a player - Judd was 3, 20 and Kennedy (pick 4). OOC player value plummets - Freo will secure McCarthy for relative peanuts this year when they were offering 2 x 1st rounder last year when he was in contract.

Sum of the IQs probably around 180 though.

I think so. Probably greatest tennis player of all time. Possibly greatest female athlete of all time. If Usain Bolt wins the double at this year's Olympics then he's the greatest athlete of all time IMO.

That's not what the WADA code says, and that's what the players signed up to.

You're a harder man than me. I've followed this case reasonably closely and am satisfied that the players used TB-4 and therefore committed an ADRV and I think that the CAS penalty is appropriate because the players share fault. I won't labour the reasons here unless anyone really needs them. But on the other hand - Melksham was 20yo starting his 3rd year in the system. Hird and Dank told him it was all OK - even Dank (mistakenly) thought TB-4 wasn't banned. http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/danks-stunning-admission-20140613-zs7ea.html Watson, Fletcher, Stanton, Hille etc were all going ahead with it. Life ban - pretty harsh! I'm prepared to welcome him to our club and hope he can re-build his career, but like you said I'd like to hear more contrition and less "we're innocent".

So in effect, you think Melksham (and all the Essendon 34) should be banned for life and that CAS got it wrong? Because that's the natural extension of your argument. IMO, they have broken the rules and have received a significant punishment. I do think it's very unbecoming that the players involved and the AFLPA continue to maintain their "innocence" and agree with you that contrition would be far better - although I haven't heard Melksham's position on this yet. If the punishment is accepted and served in good faith by the players, then they should be free to re-commence their careers.

If each player is equally likely to be picked at the next 3 picks before ours then I make the minimum probability: 0.80 x 0.75 x 0.67 = 0.40 that we'd get our guy at pick 7 (each of those probabilities are the probability of not picking our guy from that set at that pick) The probability is actually better than that because Essendon and Gold Coast may select any other player, not just from that set, at their picks

Yes, they showed 6 players on the night? There's 15 possible combinations of 2 players from 6.choices (30 ways they can be picked taking order into account). Exciting times!

Thanks for the write-up Jack. I think Aaron Francis is the forgotten man because of his "type". I don't think we can count him out of our calculations.

Snoop Dog Phantom published yesterday: Snoop Dog 2015 Phantom National and Rookie Draft Lot's of detail, interesting picks for us.

Coach should not be involved in recruiting except in the broadest terms. Coach that is being phased out shouldnt be involved at all.

I donn't think Roos has got anything to do with it in any way. I be alarmed if he did.

As as been said by others - making judgement on highlights reel is not sound. And that video in particular has so little game action in it, it's ridiculous to draw any conclusions.

Missed it by that || much!

GC needs players, not more picks this year. But I wonder if they'd play 2016 ladder roulette with us and trade 3 + their 2016 1st for 6 + our 2016 1st? Then we can give that 1st rounder back to them next year in the Prestia trade : )

Assuming Roos is coach, I'm in favour of sticking with Watts. Roos' impact is going to be cultural and psychological, I think game-style will flow from these. I'd like to see Roos work with Watts on his deficiencies. If Roos was still coach of Sydney and Watts was looking for a trade there everyone would be saying "well that's an environment where he can finally realise his potential".

Pulitzer deleted it.

We can help GC here (and they can help us elsewhere). GC need to set a precedent that they won't be held over a barrel by players wanting to return home. They should tell Caddy they'll force him into the draft if he doesn't help them get a suitable deal and we should tell him that we'll pick him with ND13 or PSD3 whether he likes it or not. That'll force him to find a decent deal for GC.

I'm saying Martin for Caddy straight swap, not pick 13 + Martin.

Martin is surplus IMO. He's hopeless forward. Jamar is #1 ruck and Spencer is his depth. Clark is forward-ruck and that's why we need to solve the extra key forward problem. There's no way Jamar, Martin, Clark and another key forward are all in the 21. Fitz is ahead of Martin forward.

I'd trade Martin for Caddy.