Chook

That looks brilliant. I love the emblem behind the writing.

The guy was a fool, flipping from Naitanui to Watts like twelve year-old watching Sunday afternoon TV. Got a few things right but had probably the lowest strike rate of anyone on Demonland, simply because he had about a million opinions on everything. The fact that this thread is almost three pages long is a fitting tribute to the idiocy he inspired.

Zing.

I look at football a lot like religion. Would you change your religion based upon who was paying you the most? I wouldn't. There would need to be something fundamental, something other than money, to cause me to change. You being in the no category of the poll has no bearing on what the "correct" answer to my question is, although it would seem that most AFL footballers do share your "make hay while the body holds up" view. Not that I blame them. But that doesn't change the nature of my question: "would a member of Demonland change Clubs just for the love of the team? And if so, would they take a pay-cut, just to get it done?" It appears the answer for most is a yes. Also, you spoke of "maximising your returns." I agree that maximising returns is what everyone tries to do. But sometimes we might sacrifice monetary returns in the name of something else. We've all sacrificed time working (and thus earning money) for free time, holidays, time with family, or whatever; which is when the black-and-white "how do I make the most money" ceases to be the be-all and end-all of "return maximisation." Giving up money at Carlton, for example, might be a good idea if you want to win a Premiership in your lifetime, or if you simply would prefer not to feel dirty even after having a shower.

That's all well and good, but it's got nothing to do with this thread, unless it's what you'd do. We're talking in hypotheticals here, Rhino, something I know you dislike; as it requires less than a full understanding of the situation in question.

I think they have a cream now for that skin problem you have, although I'm not so sure we can fix that steam coming out of your ears. But you've pretty much nailed it with your comments on Yze_Magic. As much as I liked his humour (and I did stick up for him at times), he was a dill. A poor man's E25, if only a little funnier.

Do any posts exist from that time, or are they all gone?

EFA. It's just human nature. Nobody wants to look bad, so we try make others look worse.

Brrak, brrak, brrakaaaakkk.

Bile is like any bodily fluid. It tastes bad if it's yours, but it tastes much worse if it's someone else's.

Can you apply the same smoothing/blurring to the words as you have to the players? That might make it blend into the rest of the image a little better.

Depends where you're walking to (the PSD, or just "away from the club"). If you've definitively said "I'm leaving. Trade me, or deal with the consequences" then I still think you've 'walked.' Obviously that's not the same as what Bruce just did, which is leave without even giving us the opportunity to gain something out of it. To me, requesting a trade is just that: preferring one, but not threatening to leave if one can't be arranged.

Does anyone know of this actually happening? Has a player publicly said "I'm leaving to go to Club X, because that's who I supported when I was a kid"? Going back to your home state doesn't really count, since that's a whole separate issue (home sickness, etc.).

Yeah. Journalism hit a new low that day.

If that's true, then you are seriously over-dressed.

Haven't you heard? He's just an ankles country member, whatever that means. But I would like to know what a few posters on this site look like. Put a face to the "name," so to speak.

If I was Dean Bailey and Cameron Bruce asked me to guarantee his spot in the team, I would have laughed in his face. What a pathetic caveat for a sportsman to try to add to a contract. I'd be too embarrassed to even mention it if I were Bruce. "Oh, please Mr. Coach, play me even if I'm crap. My poor ego couldn't take it if I ever had to play with those peons in the VFL."

I think we need to keep the symmetry created by the black book-ends, and also by the middle player facing camera, with those to the left facing right and vice versa. I think we should also wait to see who's made captain and put him in the centre, with the remaining four players being a ruckman (Jamar), a midfielder, a forward and a defender, just to give some representation.

All this talk of loyalty has got me thinking. Let's say you've been drafted by another club. Would you walk out on them just to play for your beloved Dees?

James McDonald lasted until the age of 34 before we got rid of him, and the only reason Bruce left was because we didn't want to rashly commit to keeping him come hell or high water. It's not as if we've systematically gotten rid of everyone over thirty years old, and the senior players who are still around would realize that. Not to mention the fact that I think some of our younger players might see Bruce and McDonald's departures as a chance for them to cement a spot in our best 22.

Grimes, Petterd, Jamar.

Me too.

This is the way we have to see it, for sure.

Erm . . . that would be incorrect.

LOL at BBP. Cameron Bruce wasn't helping us win critical games in August five years ago. Why would we expect him to do it now with a team of lawyers and a wallet as fat a George Costanza's weighing him down?