Chook

You rest players during the season, but you’re trying to win that season. You delist good hardworking players who are too old to win you a premiership; but that’s okay, you’re trying to win the Premiership five years from now. Etcetera. And what if you still win despite your efforts to lose? Is that not tanking? Obviously your results-based metric doesn’t account for that. It’s all one big grey area. Your definition is no better (or, admittedly, worse) than mine. Our only trouble is that someone’s definition should be used, and that definition should have a clear reasoning behind it. Unfortunately this still has not yet happened. But that’s the AFL for you.

But where do you draw the line? Resting a midfielder for a few minutes on the Bench might make you worse off for a short time, but you'll be better off once they're back. Is that "tanking"? You have to draw a line between strategy and tanking somewhere. I think at the end of each season is a pretty good place to draw that line.

I hope he hasn't just been selected based on the colour of his name.

The difference between tanking and this kind of list management is that for what Freo and North are doing, they expect to reap their benefits this season. Tanking is a systematic distortion of this season for the benefit of next season (or even later).

Dat David Neitz poster tho.

That would require having someone to kick the ball to, and Melbourne players don’t have any friends.

QFT

Actually, no they don’t. That’s the point.

Looks like Fox Footy has decided to boot Adelaide out of the finals.

At the Rohan Bail pavilion.

... Bemoan our loss to Carlton as a sign we haven't improved.

Luke Hodge sprays his teammates fairly often. Coaches yell at their players. Forwards have been demanding better of midfielders since Moses wore short pants. It’s good. EDIT: Obviously there can be too much of a good thing though.

In order to get out of the mire, we need everyone to demand better of their team mates. I’m okay with it, TBH.

And people want us to trade him...

This thread is everything that’s wrong with Demonland.

I remember when Brock McLean stole the show and Nathan Carroll took down a monstrous Saint called Fraser Gehrig.

6 McDonald 5 Watts 4 Grimes 3 Mitchie 2 Newton 1 Salem I feel dirty even posting on this thread.

…And it’s gone.

Hogan’s team mates need to show more care. Hogan cares, and he lets it out. Who else does in this side?

It’s hard to go from “disgusted mode” to having that primal beast within me that wants out mob to beat their mob start to come out again. This is surely just another trick from the Melbourne players to hurt me twice in the same game.

This is some funny stuff.

At this point, winning this game would almost feel like more of a loss than losing it by a hundred. It would just mask over all our cracks and effort problems.

Ah yes, our token “good” quarter per game. Too bad the game is already lost.

We said that 3 years ago. And then 3 years before that. It’s a neverending story.

This is Melbourne’s official application for a priority pick.