Half forward flank

I wonder if the assessment of Rivers doing whats asked of him is going to be a gold ticket for him to break into the side. We desperately need defenders who can get the ball and deliver to the forwards as per instructions under pressure. If I was Goodwin I would be backing blokes who do as asked, at least that way if he comes under coaching pressure he has done it his way.

Wow.

Jolimont plan was niave, ill thought and should of been dismissed as soon as it was proposed. It showed how out of touch the Club is with its own historical neighborhood.

Gee Tracs personality reminds me of a young Dippa or as he was called then, Bertie.. Love Dippa to sit and have a talk to him.

How the AFL has not worked out that the full forward position is unique to our game and should be protected is beyond me. All through the games history exciting full forwards have drawn the crowds and particilarly ther kids. Todays kids have no idea of the excitement of watching the great full forweards execute a lead. Every suburban and junior team has a likely lad who was good on the lead and a deadly kick. Although we had few star full forwards over the years it was still fantastic hearing how many the stars had kicked and then going home and watching the highlights of a McKenna, Hudson, Lockett or Dunstall.

Not sure on what you base the first point on whats.

It is an idea to explore especially for interstate teams. It has been attempted with the greatest degree of incompetence imaginable at the Bentleigh Club

I think it is taking a very narrow view of what a supporter is in the modern era to think they must attend every week even when the supporter has no confidence in the coaching panel, team selections or playing ability. As others have said footy aint, a shilling through the turnstyle anymore where even people in relative poverty could afford to go to every home game. We are always going to have the really keen members who can afford and love the weekly experience. Others will come and go with the fortunes of the team, just like you may go to the races to watch Winx because you know you will get a great spectacle and your hard earned will be put to good use. Its up to a modern footy club to put on the show and the fans will follow.

Never going to happen.

Even at a Demond/Lions game there would be some specky attempts, bit of dash with Robbie and Mick Conlan, one on one contests and the odd laugh

I believe the Bentleigh Club might be worth quite a bit more than $11-12 million to the right buyer.

Never be any good while we persist with ANB.

Interchange makes a mockery of the argument that the players are fitter today than ever. If so why do they need to rest so often. I am exaggerating to make a point but if all AFL players had to be replaced today and 700 odd new players came in, how many would we miss for their run, their leading, their marking ability, or do the spectacular?

Yes, too true. I am not convinced on Goodwin but want to know where if anywhere was the ex Saints coachs influence on the West Coast game. He is such an irrelevance i cant even automatically remember his name, oh yes, Richardson.

Fair point MS, I am not an advocate of pokies. My main point is it needs to be a Community venue, does not have to be large but must have modern facilities that are in demand by the community. Otherwise I do not think you will find any politician of any persuasion supporting a footy only project.

Yes DJ, lots of probables and highlights how ridiculous it is to have so many professional footballers at 18 clubs. Hardly elite when you have something like 600-700 players in one code in a country the size of Australia.

Social Clubs still work for all sorts of ethnic goups, look at the Venuto Club Bulleen. Successful venues are far removed from the old image of boozy blokes on a match day. In truth, even in the day they made most of their revenue from function booking and were a Community asset. People wanting to come and look at trophies and museum pieces were always a minority. Any half decent marketing/catering dept would be able to have a high occupancy rate for dining/function rooms in a modern venue. Think community, community, community to access Government funds.

G Good side on paper. Hope Jetta and Hibberd can find form in the backine. Not their last chance but need to get some confidence back May and Lever must earn their keep. Get Fritta and Weed leading. Mids work hard and kick to in front of the forwards. Max and Viney to lead the way.

I think a modern Social Club would be something along the lines of what Carlton have at their ground. They have a Cafe area that opens to the ground to watch training. Anything beyond that would need to pay its own way in function bookings and not just rely on drinkers after our home games.

Yes thanks Demonland, but really? I would like to see the Sales figures and bottom line to the Club. Mc Donalds sells merchandise too but does not fiddle with the Golden arches.

What is the point of training jumpers being different to game day jumpers?

Talking about cost cutting. lets just have a Melbourne jumper for the players.

On what basis does Hibberd get a game. Time to shake the tree.

In all my years of following the Dees we have always been undersized compared to the top teams except for when we had the Big Red Engine and Jimmy working in tandem. gee it gave a lift to their teamates and the fans.