Half forward flank

24 minutes ago, Mach5 said:

I know this is the Leake thread, but I’ll add - my fear with Sanders is that he’s like McLean, or Dom Tyson, or Darcy Parish, or any number of others... players that if they’re not in the midfield, they don’t have the tools to fit anywhere else.

And if he’s with us, he ain’t unseating Viney, Oliver or Petracca.

Very good post. I remember those sort of guys in junior footy too. Always got to play on the ball but could not mark or kick properly. Often get set in midfield on personality and get enough kicks to stay there and get noticed. Prime example. Bailey Smith

The most important change needs to be Goodys reaction times to making changes. He always appears to be making moves after the general concences of when a move should occur. He is usually on the side of caution. 

Having known the bloodlines of Tom Greene i hoped we could have got him. 

On 18/10/2023 at 21:11, WERRIDEE said:

I've promised now I have delivered. It 's WERRIDEE's best 44 Trade week addition.

 

B: McVee, May, Lever

HB: Rivers, D.Turner, Bowey

C: Langdon, Oliver, Hunter

HF: Petracca, van Rooyen, Neal-Bullen

F: Fritsch, Petty, Pickett

FOLL: Gawn, Brayshaw, Viney

IC: Salem, Sparrow, Billings, McAdam

SUB: Smith

 

Casey

B: K.Turner, Tomlinson, Adams

HB: Howes, O'Sullivan\Murphy, Schache

C: Woewodin, Laurie, Chandler

HF: Melksham, McDonald, Moniz-Wakefield

F: Jefferson, B.Brown, Smith

FOLL: Fullerton, Sanders\Curtin, Spargo

IC: Sestan, Verrall, Farris-White, K.Brown

Casey side better than many of our senior sides in the dark years.

Reminds me a bit of that flashy Karl Langdon from Eagles successful era. 

14 hours ago, Redleg said:

Has there ever been a better looking man than Skull Murphy?

If i remember.. he came from Parts unknown by way of background information, with a skull 2 times thicker than a normal man.  And side kick , the Brute. Brute Bernard.

6 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

Never mind.

First of all there was the pound, slang term quid, this was divided into 20 shillings with one shilling (bob), two shilling (old term florin) coins and a 10 shilling note. A shilling was divided into 12 pennies with three penny (thrup'ny bit) and six penny

A bob as in footy talk. 
i wouldnt give two bob for that bloke- player.

22 hours ago, leave it to deever said:

Twas I. A voracious collector of empty coke bottles, Leeds , Fanta and a few others. Lived in St Kilda East amongst a lot of flats . High density area and great pickings. Made more with bottles than my morning paper round. I hated that round especially on Saturday with the bloody Age. 5 bucks a week and usually had to pay for damaged flower pots. Doh. And it was so cold and dark at 5.30 am. The alarm sent shivers down my spine. As mentioned I got lazy returning the bottles and stacked them around the side of our Westbury grove house. When they went from 10 cents to 20 it was like winning Powerball. Apologies to the owner of the Newsagency for not turning my colleagues in for all the smokes they pinched. 

I had an almost identical childhood. Empty bottles for cash, paper round pay was $6.20 though. Smokes and mags disappearing from paper shop. On good authority i confirm some over zealous boys moved in to first pinching full coke bottles then taking the empty for the refund. One gang allegedly removed a crate of coke bottles from the milk bar and hid them on the local school roof where they hung out. Figuring the bottles would be spotted with ingenuity they removed roof tiles and hid them in the roof space. Following week the school put up wire to stop kids climbing on the roof. Fifty years later the roof and tiles are still there. One day it might be demolished and the workers will likely be amazed as to why their are 24 classic coke 7oz bottles in a box under the tiles.

Whats needed. Well as an average fan with no inside info i said to my son. Something is nit right with the midfield . I had no idea what, just that it had something exclusive about it. The fact Dunstan could not get a look in. They said his ball use which appeared no better or worse than those in the group. We now know Oliver was having issues. 

On 13/10/2023 at 11:19, george_on_the_outer said:

When coaching in junior competitions a couple of years ago, the Sandy Dragons asked for "likely" players to join their squad. 

But the recruiting staff asked us not to put forward kids who wouldn't grow much more, no matter how good they were in juniors.  To stand out at the next level you had to be big.   They already had a 14 year old ruck who was 210cm.  They also pointed out Nate Fyfe was 190cm and Patrick Cripps 195cm....they said this was the size of mid-fielders in the future, as proved to be the case (3 Brownlows).

So a player like Caddy is not a tall by the AFL standards these days. 

In fact they are all tall when you get to meet a group of them in real life.

Collingwood GF midfield says hello. 

He may not be a star but the noise supporters made when he was near the ball was enormous and had a positive effect on the team. Its an interesting one and good pick up for Hawks for mine

26 minutes ago, seventyfour said:

Colin Sylvia had 37 and 4 in a game once...

Billings has only kicked more than two goals in a game four times. If he plays for us, he's a midfielder, not a forward.

Colin was a rare talent.

Interesting talk of him being small. I thought in the finals Collingwood with their smalls and players in general hold the baller lower than other teams. It makes it more difficult for opposition to tackle them, draws frees, and if it becomes a ball up it plays to their strengths. That was my observation anyway.

Could someone please give me an update of who we will have and what draft picks at the end of the trade period

If we think Petty was the player who might have made the difference in two tight finals for next year at least he is untradeable

9 hours ago, jnrmac said:

True but we changed massively from 2018 and 2019 and learned.

This year was perplexing for me. We played pre-season very aggressively through the corridor and cutting angles etc. Our first few rounds we were number one for accuracy as we played daring football and centered the ball into the corridor.

We changed game plan distinctively in rd 12 and 13 against the Blues and the pies. I assumed we wanted to play a much more defensive game plan as we were likely to meet these two teams in September. That was around the time we played a very high press, defended by playing a boundary game and we scored a shocking number of points for 3 or 4 weeks in a row.

So I fear Simon will say he only has to tweak a few minor things but the game has caught up to us and has figured us out. A game "built for finals" has failed in the last four.

And our much-vaunted leaders utterly failed in the last 100 seconds against Carlton.

We need to change quite a lot 

Our leaders have given us a flag, eternal thanks but it might be time for change. The ruck thing is perplexing. When recruited Grundy we had BB, McDonald and Melk all available for the season. By mid year Goody was talking about the ruck pair needing to kick goals or else it was over. 

59 minutes ago, IRW said:

Sidebottom said it straight up last week.

We try to keep the ball in to the pack / contest until we see an exit that we can use to go forward .

Rather than a wild handball to a nearby Demon so he can hack it further on 

I wonder which is a calculation and which  is hopeful?

Yes, its ugly. Commentators are not onto it as they can keep saying it a tough contest, midfield beasts and all the rest. Game following NRL and no one seems to care. 

On 9/30/2023 at 6:06 PM, mo64 said:

Pies decision to get rid of Grundy was justified.

Grundy is probably wondering how Frampton has a premiership medallion, whilst he got the lemon and sars from the club he loved.

I saw this a lot in basketball. Players  of lesser ability who follow rules/ game style and system are highly valued. Stars, gotta star, but tole players are valuable too. 

14 minutes ago, Deemania since 56 said:

Falling on top of the ball in scrums with a teammate lowering himself as well to hide the drawing of the ball back under the body. 

They are holding the ball lower. Using their knees to lower the ball and break tackles or draw a free

8 minutes ago, Clintosaurus said:

Pies also seem to go into rugby mode in the last 5, knowing the umps won't blow the whistle.

This is my observation too. I noticed it at our game and its been the same since then. I think its a strategy. Maybe they know with the crowd the noise, the pressure umpires are under frees wont be paid. I suspect they may even have researched the stats on frees in the last 5 minutes. They are ahead of the game, looking at it as a science. You can see it in the players when they talk about their surety of winning close ones. And of course they train for it knowing most big games will be close. 

1 minute ago, fr_ap said:

Honestly the discussion on Hill is nonsense. Pure utter nonsense. 

Fair play he turned in his best ever game at the best possible time. But that was his career high. Kozzie Is younger and has already had several bigger days than that, and regularly kicks more goals and has more involvements and defensive acts than Hill does. 

We all dislike it when he flies unnecessarily, but let's not get lost in the moment. 2 (3?) of his goals were as simple as getting loose and receiving a hit up kick for a simple set shot. Koz also does this - not as often as he should which says more about our ball use not finding him. The one snap Hill did back on his left is a goal Kozzie has kicked many times. 

The guy had a good day in a team that is statistically one of the luckiest sides to win a flag. Don't overplay it. Kozzie's output puts just about every small forward other than Charlie to shame. 

Lucky maybe but dont discount Collingwood would have replied if the trip had been properly paid. They have a cult like belief in their system in close ones. Goody has to examine their system late and counter it. I have examined  it but think it must be to do with their system from the centre bounce. Perhaps they have a play or two they only use at the end of games when a goal or two behind. We saw it yesterday when Brissie got in front.

like to hear others thought 

2 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Inserted himself way too much this year.

You've had your time Pete, rack off.

Why was he allowed on the ground?

1 hour ago, IRW said:

You have the tapes from the pre match I assume,because that's libel

We moved on from tapes a while ago. 

11 minutes ago, Earl Hood said:

No it won’t work unless the backup ruck can mostly play forward and kick a bag every week. Max has to play 90% on ball and we can’t carry another ruck that can’t also lead, mark and goal, you see. I mean you won’t see a Grand Final team carrying 2 big rucks that don’t kick goals and barely take a mark forward of centre. 

We saw it today

Go and find the tallest gnarlist, most awkward but effective bigman in VFL or not getting an AFL game. Teach him a role within the team.