Travy14

Hey Legends

Im sure there is already a thread about this.

Where are some good places to have a drink and a bit to eat before the game, coming in from Lilydale so keen to get in a little early.

Preferably closeish to the G so i dont gave too far to run after squeezing "one more" in.

7 minutes ago, Gawndy the Great said:

if he isn’t the GWS starting team should we really be looking at this player? 
 

We really should be looking to take someone that will immediately improve our top end. KPF / midfielder etc. Our defence is solid and isn’t really an issue area. 
 

So pass for mine. 

Whitfield, Ash, Himmelburg, Idun and Perryman are the names getting a game ahead of him, all guns.  I agree about the other areas, but this kid is a walk up start in most teams in the comp.  Unfortunately no KPFs available worth spending $$ on.

2 minutes ago, Nascent said:

Yes.

Unrestricted FA as well I'm fairly certain. Can play wing as well and is an excellent user of the footy.

yes he is, and you would think we can offer him more $$ than GWS as their books would have to be pretty tight

6 minutes ago, godees said:

He’s only 184cm. I’d love him at the dees for some more run off half back.

188, don't look at the WIKI page think its old info

1 hour ago, Skuit said:

For those questioning my ongoing support of and the viability of an NT team, here are my solid contentions;

An Indigenous-led team will be underwitten by the fed and state governments, as a social mechanism. 

It will still attract massive sponsorship $$$, in a CSR respect (sorry Santos and INPEX).

The locals will be more likely to switch allegiances or support the NT as a second team compared to Tas. 

Most of Australia will take up the dynamic (cliche) NT as a second team, inc. dinky memberships.

Anyone who has ever watched footy up north will know it's not just a cliche. [censored] is exciting. 

A local team will unearth local hidden talent, adding to the AFL pool. See Jurrah x 10. 

The conditions are challenging, but it's not a big deal in winter. Just a bit slippery. Seriously. 

A new 25,000 seat stadium in the city will fill out every second week the team play at home. 

The same stadium can host other stuff and bring in people from SEAsia. Benefit NT. 

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I'm a Norwood supporter, but would back an NT team before a third SA or WA team. An NT team would outperform GWS and GC on almost every metric in their first season, on and off field. Canberra? pfft. Darwin leans AFL but is fairly split with NRL. Start a team up there and watch the fans and kids gravitate. I have first-hand anecdotal evidence: my kid brother is 6ft.7 and build like the proverbial. He should be an AFL ruck already but is still [censored] around playing rugby. 

 

 

 

 

Also A Redlegs supporter, and don't want them in the AFL because i don't know how i would choose between them and  the Dees!

It's also just a media story and nothing else!

2 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said:

Sort of plays a similar role to Howe - that not-a-tall-but-not-small?

yeh exactly, i really like him. but we do have so many of this player that we are throwing defenders forward, so it is hard to spend capital in that area.  Just a classy player that is available.

Out of contract and seemingly out of favor at a very strong GWS backline.

If we are going to persist with Petty and Turner forward, should we look at this kid?

He is a very good footballer and GWS obviously like him as they have tried to play him in other positions to fit him into the side but he is an intercept backman and plays it very well.  Only 25, has shown he can play at a very high level in the AFL, only issue is it's just not an are we really need.

2 hours ago, dee-tox said:

We won't pay him what the Weagles are paying him.

At 31/32 and only averaging 10 games a year for the past four years the Weagles are right to hold off talks.

I'd rather someone with less miles on the clock.

Unfortunately you are correct, he would be the perfect replacement for Brayshaw.

could we offer him good $$ for 2 years.  We do desperately need that extra classy midfielder that Gus was.  Big hole in our side atm

39 minutes ago, Neil Crompton said:

I’ve lost a day. I thought today was Sunday. I must get off the pizz. 

Podcast is on Monday

Gents, happy Monday!

do you think our poor first half was just a byproduct of the bye? Rich were just as bad and we managed to turn it around after half time.

Our fwd line, i wrote last week about Petty not being a Fwd but having to play the role due to lack of options.  Disco was great but we shouldn't read to much into it as very similar to Petty's good performances it was a very weak opponent and being a bit of a surprise selection Richmond wouldn't have put a lot of time into that match up.

McAdam looks like he is gaining fitness and i think Goody said he still need a full game in the VFL which i think is a good idea, but is he the answer?  i did not like us getting him as he is lazy and has had attitude problems in the past, hoping the change fixes all that and the early injuries this year were just due to him actually putting in the work in pre-season.

We still have some good players to come in: Bowie, Salem, Melksham, Hunter and McAdam 3 of them at least are in our best side and we are sitting 5 & 2, good start to the year now the footy starts to slow down in the colder/wetter period and having a healthy list is huge! Go Dees

18 hours ago, monoccular said:

Not forever but yes for a week. 

this is why i'm saying you can't compare AFL to a normal work place.  you don't get a week off work if you hit a co-worker or competitor.

1 minute ago, sue said:

1 minute ago, sue said:

My apologies for not having read earlier posts.  IMO arguing by analogy often leads to irrelevant arguments as to how closely the 2 cases are related, rather than discussing the original point. Best not to carry on with the analogy.

You'd be far less likely to be suspended/sacked from many everyday jobs for a bit of wrestling than for a punch (though yes, in some you'd be sacked for either). 

Then there is the  'equivalent to AFL infringements' in the analogy with the everyday workplace - stealing staples compared to stealing a stapler? 

Curses, they've got me doing it now.

 

Agree, although i like to see a workplace that allows wrestling in an aggressive manner like the AFL.

Which is why i don't bye the AFL is a workplace thing.  It's nothing like a "normal" workplace.  I'm in mining which has a completely different type of "normal" again

i think the best way to stamp these out is a fine, then repeat offence is a suspension.  But the is the argument of how long do they carry over. 

21 minutes ago, Dee Zephyr said:

So you’re saying players should get a free whack in the guts to someone per year before they are suspended. Fines do FA, he got a $6250 fine for a second offence. 

maybe 1 year should carry over, but there should be some cut off time id say.

i mean we have to apply this to everything though.  Toby Greene may naver play footy again lol

AFL want to be able to pivot on these things so if a Gawn, Daicos, Hawkins ect can get off leading into a final.  It's sad but it's true

1 minute ago, sue said:

You're the one who raised the comparison with an everyday work place, so either I'm glad you now think it is silly or you have confused me completely.

I'm surprised you can't see the difference between a 'love tap' and wrestling. But yes, if the wrestling is over the top (eg causes significant pain), it should be penalised too.  But if it is not over the top, it would be worthy of a fine, not suspension IMO. Repeated minor acts and fines should lead to a suspension if there is a further infraction.  Just as too many suspensions for 'love taps' might be grounds for the sack.

i think if you followed the convo instead of just commenting on the first part that takes your eye, you would see i was responding to another that compared it to a workplace.

Would their be a different outcome in a "workplace" between a love tap and wrestling? this is my point, for people saying it is the same as an every day workplace.

5 minutes ago, sue said:

That is a silly comparison.  OK, you are saying a workplace which allows some sorts of physical contact as part of the employment (playing the game according to its rules) should do little to discourage physical contact which has nothing to do with the game.  Bus a fine (of the size the AFL employs) means nothing to these players. 

I'd agree, a fine would be OK if the fine was say 10% of the players annual contract and there were measures taken to prevent others paying the fine for them.   But since the latter is impossible in practice, a suspension is the only way to send the message to players to stop giving the AFL a bad image and influencing kids to think gratuitous violence is OK.   (if anyone thinks it is a good image, then take up supporting boxing.)

Current precedents create a problem, but the AFL has to grasp the nettle and make it a rule that a 'love tap' means 1 week off or more depending on severity (and penalties for blatant staging).  And if you do it too severely and too often, then yes, you are sacked from the AFL.

 

 

i think the silly comparison is that of an everyday work place. 

whats the difference between that "love tap" and Viney then wrestling with Pickett after? should he be suspended?  or because its retaliation its ok?

Like i said in other posts, i believe it should be a fine first and repeat offences go up!  So if he was to do it again he would incur a suspension.  I also agree staging should be penalised, although if he hit Clarry in the right spot it could of hurt, so it becomes hard to determine.

13 minutes ago, Demonstone said:

Of course it's a work place.  It's where the players earn their living by being paid for what they do.

They could reasonably expect to have somebody jump on their shoulders or tackle them.

It is unreasonable to suggest that they cop a coward punch while doing their job.

comparing apples and oranges,  contact is allowed in football.  is prohibited contact which resulted in a fine.  If this happened in the workplace you would be fired.  are you saying that Pickett should be removed from the AFL?

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2 hours ago, Dee Zephyr said:

This was his second offence.

he hasn't had another offence this year!

2 hours ago, Undeeterred said:

So if you were standing around in your workplace and someone just walked up behind you and punched you in the guts, that’s ok?

it’s completely unnecessary 

 

I'd be [censored] off if someone jumped on my shoulders or tackled me too.  It's not a work place

God, there was nothing in it.  A fine is what it's worth!

The AFL should have a system now that if he was to do it again, it's a week!  But if one of our players was rubbed out for that id be furious.

In: Hunter

Out: Woewodin

Windsor to sub.

Petty does need to show something or he is in big trouble, but i honestly have never thought he was a forward 

100% we should look at Lobb.  As long as we aren't paying too much for him he is exactly what we need in our side!

This is a٪^&%#%^ disgrace.  Did we train in black and gold jumpers this week?

Kolt was fine, he is going to be a good player.  He is used to being bigger and stronger than his opponents which shower with him trying to push them off.  When he fills out he will be much better.

The first 5 min of the game i recon he was tackled 4 times for a ball up which doesn't show as a stat on the scorecard but they are important touches none the less and shows he is in the right spots.

He will be fine and i hope he gets another couple of runs this year!

Very good player, would be a great get. And compliment our midfield perfectly.

Not sure where out salary cap sits, we get off the books Brayshaw $$, Tomlinson*, BBB*, T-Mac* as well as possible someone like a Spargo leaving for opportunity.  

Just depends how it fits into our cap and if we can afford him.

*possibly retiring or de-listed