Ohio USA - David

On 11/5/2020 at 11:24 PM, 58er said:

What role Travy 14 ? HFF?  or HBF ?
rather a difference in skill and output between Fritsch and Smith at Zhang forward.

Also Harmes Vanders and Melkshske  in 2020. All  are about the same for form in decline.
Keep Hunty Who can kick Multiple  goals and get an early/ mid 3 Rd rounder fir Mitch.

 

well said...agree. Hunt has years left compared with Melk ( who I really like as a player but every player has their Big day in retirement )

22 hours ago, Billy said:

Blah blah blah 

Sorry but I felt it was a tear jerk comment session that told us nothing really NEW 

On 10/14/2020 at 5:23 AM, Travy14 said:

Offer him and Hunt for picks,  which we should chuck at Collingwood for Phillips, who should be top priority. Close second being Brown/Cameron/Hogan/Mihochek.

We don't need Hannan and Hunt.  We have Melksham, Fritcsh, Smith, Vanders, Harmes who can play that role. 

I would have Hunt any day over Melk. Unfortunately for this great player his best footy is behind him.. Hunt is still young and has a future.  I am not impressed with Smith either as I feel he is another O Mc .

2 hours ago, DavidNeitz9 said:

 

Garry Byers, now there's a name for history... I always thought he would be a good solid player... Only five games to his credit and listed for just over a year... I thought he had talent as a ruckman...

Here is a URL which brings back memories of his first game.. Some great players in that team and the Reserves too.

http://demonwiki.org/Round+16+1962

17 hours ago, monoccular said:

Does anyone have anything new about Aaron?

Is he still listed?

Is he walking? Running?

All I know is that he definitely has a Contract for 2021 season...

11 hours ago, Ron Burgundy said:

 

And, relevantly, he seems not to have matured or changed his ways since then.

 

I totally agree. Hogan was all about Hogan at the MFC and he took that individualism to Freo. He is not a team player - never has been. We and Freo are better off without him. He has an ago problem and does not play for "the Team"

22 hours ago, Cards13 said:

Lol what rubbish, That is one of the biggest fallacies of sports. Individualism is a part of every team, it’s how a coach/manager is able to harness that into a collective pursuit for success that defines the team and players

you are entitled to your views but please respect others.. Just shows how immature you are...

3 hours ago, Mono said:

Didn't he win the Rising Star ahead of Cripps? Not too shabby.

I think comments here are unfair to the Clubs when you say " Two Clubs who could not get the best out of Hogan " Frankly Hogan is his worst enemy, Hogan being so full of his own self ability tore his playing days apart. Frankly we were a better Club without him. There is no room in a Football Club for player individualism. 

7 hours ago, Dees2014 said:

Personally ld much rather Hogan than Brown. No chance l suppose...

No thanks  - already wasted too much time on him.... Once bitten twice shy

4 hours ago, Pates said:

The chance about his body size and conditioning is an interesting one, it would be curious to know who thought it was the best way to go; club, player, or both. 

Tom’s biggest weapon in 2018 (and yes it’s now at a point where it’s hard to use that as an argument for a rapid regeneration) was that he was so mobile. He would do a massive body of work further up the ground and beat his opponent in fitness over body strength. And for that matter his contested marking was still pretty decent. 

I do think Tom will be gone by the end of the trade period, particularly if we are to get Brown. It’ll be sad because his decline has been a very rapid and disappointing one. 

If he goes to GWS and is able to get his body right I actually think he could turn it around. 

Just a question:  What if we retain him and play him at CFB - his old stomping ground... But of course get rid of O Mc...

16 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Oh those guys have gone already? 

I might try and buy an ice cream while the shop is closed too.

Spargo and ANB should be retained and despite your hate... they will be retained..... Out the door should be T Mc and O Mc and Melk (sad to say cause he has bee good for us )

14 hours ago, Little Goffy said:

Maybe we need a thread for hindsight drafting, where we have to declare who we would take with our picks from at least 8 years ago.

No...!  what we need is a thread where members state who they will pick in the 2020 Draft and then store that info for five years to reflect on the errors made ..... Then we have someone to blame... ha ha .... James Hird selected Number 79 in the 1990 Draft... 

If you select right its a great advantage. Just look at Hawthorn: Pick 1. Luke Hodge 2001  Jarryd Roughhead 2004 ....2004 was the year Hawthorn scored big in the draft with Jarryd Roughead, Lance Franklin and Jordan Lewis. But the number-one pick was Brett Deledio who carved out an illustrious 243 games with Richmond. They also took Richard Tambling at pick four. You can’t win them all.

1 hour ago, demonstone said:

Jack Trengove was from Kybybolite IIRC.

He stuffed his own career up though

On 10/13/2020 at 10:15 PM, Demon3 said:

Lots of looking back and looking at trades.. but what excites you about the Dees in 2021. Some positive re-enforcement for us all.

give us 3 Things: 

1. Trent Rivers - Took a little while to find his feet but by the endo f the year played like a mature 100 gamer. Tough, composed, Skilful and the ability to develop into a mid is a great sign. Really liked his first year.

2. Adem Yze - Will be interesting to see the input and how quickly there are signs that his style and influence is being absorbed. Watching how Goodwin interacts with him will be fascinating

3. Christian Petracca - Those who have some football intelligence (all of us) will know that was his second pretty impressive year, others will say he just exploded and needs to do it more to be in the Dusty mould. in a 22 game season, he may just find even more gears to go and watching him in a final would be something else. 

I agree with your comments above but on Yze I see something that has been missing from the MFC for quite awhile and that is a devotion to the jumper and by that I mean a dedicated former Demon assisting and hopefully helping to lead the "Demon" way  of  Red and Blue Passion. Ask yourself when was the last time a former "D" was in the Football department leading the way by "Demon" example... Todd Viney was the last former Demon to coach our team back in 2011. Personally I would like to see Brad Miller back at the Demons even though he left in 2015 to move to Sydney.....as he has a great football brain in my opinion but that may be difficult due to his wife acting commitments and residing in NSW with his actress wife

1 hour ago, poita said:

Neville's been on our list 12 years. He has played more than 16 games in a year 3 times, and more than 9 games in a year 6 times, for an average of 12 games a year. Realistically we would be lucky to get half a dozen games out of him next year.

He absolutely squeezed everything out of his ability in 2016 - 2018 when he was close to the best small defender in the competition, but that was a long time ago now. He is slow, lacking in confidence, and his teammates don't trust him with the ball.

Neville is a great person and a great leader, but the only way he should be at the club next year is in an off field role. If Collingwood want to give him a multiple year deal, good luck to him and them.

This club needs to collectively put on its big boy pants and start making some tough decisions around players who won't contribute next year (see also Kolodjashnij and Nietschke).

So well said.. Thankyou -  I think you summed Nev Jetta up for all of us...

On 10/10/2020 at 9:45 AM, whatwhatsaywhat said:

who has just gone through an extraordinary season and now has the chance to return to the city in which his kids reside and be paid more than the remaining two years at a reduced rate that we'll be able to pay

everyone in the footy dept will be expected to take a pay cut to help accommodate the soft cap - arguably that renders the existing contracts null and void

i hope like hell we can hold him to his deal but at the same time i can see reasons why he would want out

This is just rubbish that is being spread by you because you want people to sit up and take notice of crap you post.

How about getting your facts right first before you go and spread unsubstantiated rumours..   .Burgo will be at the Demons next year and the year after. He is …contracted to the Club.

On 10/6/2020 at 7:19 PM, Ungarieboy said:

Tom's right!  Many supporters seem to think that unless a player is elite, then they must be junk and fair game for abuse (not being relevant).  No team has won a premiership comprising only A grader's (supported by elite) look at our very own Stephen Armstrong as a Weagle premiership player.  There's even a Morton who won a premiership.  

Oscar performs admirably and as strange as it seems I am more relaxed with him kicking than most of our other talls (he's safe, despite others like May being better kicks).  Many seem to base a lot of their opinion on his early output when he was thrown into a struggling team, as a KPP, while very young (and not fully developed).  

As a coach I do not just see the numbers as performance.  I currently have an inside midfielder who doesn't wrack the big numbers expected of the role (which others in the team could do better), but when he plays in the midfield we never lose it and rarely is a goal scored against us (they predominantly happen on his rotations).  I seem to recall Omac coming into the team this year which equated to May and Lever performance lifting to new levels, which they then maintained ' making Omacs role less of a need; but would they have gotten to that point without the confidence gained from Omacs inclusion.

This is not say he cannot be traded, it's just an observation that he does have value, he is a contributor, and can form part of a premiership team. Ironically calls for him being traded is actually recognition that he can play such a role (for someone)!

Not in my mind. O Mc is not a good "safe" player. Gives away too many errant kicks. He plays too far behind his forward player and frankly we would be better trading him. Frankly O Mc and Smith are deplorable players. And while I am at it I think T Mc's playing days with the MFC are over.

On 10/5/2020 at 4:23 PM, BW511 said:

Interestingly, I have been keeping one eye on the Cripps situation for this very reason. For those who don’t know, Cripps partner has some serious health concerns and there is suggestions of heading home to WA to assist her.

If Cripps goes home, you can bet Carlton will have cash and will want the best ball winner they can find (Oliver)
 

If things go totally pear shaped and Clarry did walk, it would be him instigating it, not the MFC. It is not too hard to see that they could improve quite rapidly and accelerate past us. They have some elite big men and are not afraid to target big fish after years of picking up GWS off cuts.

Perhaps this is what prompted the panicked call to his management from Petracca?

If we all hope for changes in our midfield over the offseason to fix the balance and end up with 5 more years of Viney, but lose Clarry, I’m out. I can’t possibly accept that. I think we’ve all been a little concerned that missing finals could prompt a raid on our couple of top Enders.
 

This could be and likely is just be a beat up based on the McClure comments, or maybe Gary Lyon thinks we’d all be shocked if Brayshaw goes to Perth? I’d hardly call that a ‘bombshell’ though

 

 

Yeah one of my friends who knows another friend of his friend who is his brother told me............  OMG no class no substance I do not believe a word....

41 minutes ago, drysdale demon said:

It might be a good idea if some posters just stopped every spreading rumor they come across, comes from a real reliable source, just another invisible internet site.

Rumors, spread by fools believed by idiots.

Totally agree.... Oliver is contracted to MFC and that's final... He is not going anywhere this year or next.. Get over it guys....

11 hours ago, Caligula's cohort said:

Bring him home. The line coaches need a good shake up after what they dished out the past couple of years. Especially with B1 and B2 at the helm. 

Yeah, bring Rawlings back home to the MFC...

7 hours ago, A F said:

Jeepers, people are suggesting a lot of changes. 10 is a lot to go off your primary list at this stage in our evolution. Possible, I guess.

NOT if the list sizes are reduced to 35 as anticipated and directed by the AFL

9 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

Delisted 

Josh Wagner

Corey Wagner

Toby Bedford

James Jordon

Kyle Dunkley

Kade Chandler

Austin Bradke

Oscar McDonald 

Mitch Brown ???

Bennell ???

Trade 

Tom McDonald 

Jack Viney (free agency)

Tom Sparrow ( only if he wants to go back home )

Retired 

Jones 

Jetta

Re-sign

Petty

Hore

Fritsch 

Hunt

Lockhart

Smith

 

I agree with most BUT I would not have Smith in my Reserves Team if we had one. He is just as bad as O Mc Donald...

5 hours ago, Pates said:

It's a different situation, we had Brayshaw on our list so we intimately knew his situation and everything that he was going through. We also did the same with Jetta so I'm well aware that the club has stuck with players suffering through concussion issues and come out the other side. But bringing on KK with his problems shows the risk you take when the player hasn't been regularly assessed by your own medicos and the inherit unpredictability when dealing with brain injuries.

Paddy might well be feeling good right now, but one knock could set him back to where he was 1 year ago. Or it could be he recovers immediately, but with long term concussion issues there is still so much uncertainty.

It was unfair for me to say KK was clogging our list, he was a cheery on top of the May deal that I could see a reason for us taking the punt and I genuinely hope he's able to recover from long term concussion issues.

 A reasonable person would say that you cannot say it's Ok to deal with the concussion issues with Brayshaw which by the way started after he was recruited and say : one knock could set" McCartin back.  One could say the same thing about Brayshaw... Seems to me double standards at play.

1 hour ago, Pates said:

It's a no from me, Burgess is a great asset to have at our club but he can't do anything for concussion issues and we've had our list clogged by Kolo helping him through his concussion issues, not interested in us taking in another unless there's a huge confidence he's out the other side.

Even so, I just don't feel it's the right move.

You forgot about what the Club did for Brayshaw.. That sinks your argument.

On 7/11/2020 at 6:50 PM, drysdale demon said:

He may want to play again, but his family don't think he will ever play again.

You do not know that.  You just made that up..  The article in the Age said " he had total family support"  so do not just make stuff up just to be smart..