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Can you quote where he said that mate? I've heard media reports speculating but not seen a comment from him. Last thing I saw was Sam Edmund saying: With this move a salary dump from Collingwood’s perspective, Edmund believes Grundy is dissatisfied with the club, much like Adam Treloar who wanted to remain a Magpie but was traded to the Bulldogs at the end of the 2020 season. “If Adam Treloar was 10 out of 10 on the anger scale with his departure, this isn’t that far behind from my understanding,” Edmund said. Grundy not “far behind” Treloar-like dissatisfaction with Collingwood trade Also, in terms of "have it both ways", I think you need to balance out the fact they'll be paying a third of his salary, different story if we were to pay Grundy's whole wage, but that's not the deal and people seem to be forgetting that.

Come on mate, pretty clearly you're trying to diminish what happened here seemingly because you have something against Caroline Wilson for some reason. Re: 'taking one of the babies to hospital' - Clearly more serious than that, and Evans had to step in: Both Sam and Lyndall Mitchell had feared for daughter Scarlett's survival at a young age. Then-football boss Mark Evans is understood to have stepped in and returned Mitchell's phone to him so he could remain in contact with his wife. Mitchell: “I felt I didn't get a lot of empathy from the powers that be at Hawthorn for what Lyndall and I were going through,” Then: The Age have also reported further allegations against Clarkson that surround his controlling behaviour have surfaced, with the four-time premiership coach alleged to have: Expressed surprise before the twins' birth that Mitchell was having children so close together (the Mitchell's son Smith was 11 months old when the twins were born) and wondered at the effect this might have upon his playing career. Publicly announced Mitchell was missing a game against Richmond due to personal reasons relating to the twins' health without the player's knowledge or consent. Ultimately agreed to treat Mitchell with more respect when the pair resolved their differences at the end of the season but again questioned the wisdom of the timing of the twins' birth. Further details surrounding the Mitchells' time at the club were also recounted by the wife of an ex-player, who revealed Lyndall was criticised for not showing enough emotion following the club's preliminary final loss to Collingwood in 2011. What Clarkson "believes" has absolutely no bearing on this as is not a defence at all. It's what you actually do that matters, not how you define it in your own mind. It's not end of the world stuff, but absolutely adds to a picture about Clarkson.

There's some classic red and blue goggles going on in Demonland as usual hey? Now that Jackson has requested a trade apparently his worth has gone down, and at the same time people are expecting some kind of mega bargain for Grundy. It's just not how the Dees operate in the trade period - we get things done with not much fuss. We gave up pick 6 for May (and KK), nearly 27 at the time, never All-Australian. Granted it's a different situation given the contract, but the point is we had a specified target and got it done. Grundy is a 28 year old 2x AA, 2x Copeland winner, and with Freo's first rounder next year likely to be somewhere around 13-15 it's not a ridiculous trade, (with some later pick swaps probably in the mix) even more so when you consider Collingwood will be paying a third of his wage. There seems to be a perception on Demonland that we're doing this deal just for the sake of it due to the salary dump and expecting a bargain, but IMO it seems obvious this is a targeted trade like we usually do when we address a need.

You're far too wholesome for this place WCW.

Interesting. I have heard it rumoured we're looking at the draft more the next two years, partly to accommodate contracts, but wouldn't have thought Hunt's next deal would be any type of amount that would have much of an impact overall.

Gut feel is it might be about next year's plans. Perhaps Bowey was going to be ahead of him next year, or maybe we've got someone in the pipeline to play half back? Sounds like Eagles had been into him during the year, and there was a rumour the Hawks had as well, so talks were happening a while out it seems.

Would have had a Brownlow this year if the bloke who is apparently now the next Ghandi hadn't kicked him in the hand...

Nah, backline has done just fine without him I reckon.

And Don McLardy won a raffle prize too! lol

Clarry has won the Bluey in more seasons than he hasn't... 4 out of 7. What an absolute legend of the club.

So did Frost, but the club was happy to let him go in the name of cleaning up back half turnovers (which were a bigger problem then than now tbf), so I wonder if this could be similar in a way?

The Premiership rings and the life membership. Absolutely fantastic move. (Just caught up on Roffey's speech during the break)

Just to clarify, I'm not advocating for Weid at all, other than maybe as support for Brown (which I think he needed).

Yeah I love that the Brad Scott v David King rivalry is back and spicy as ever!

Yep, totally get that, and we don't have a stat around that - but a defenders impetus is to punch it away just as much, if not more, than a forward trying to bring it to ground, so to be beaten 8 to 1 gives a fair indicator of how those contests are going IMO.

Yep, so for reference then - The stat from after our round 17 game was Brown had been targeted inside 50 45 times, he marked it once and was outmarked 8 times.

Haha fair enough. TBF looking for logic among Bombers fans can be a bit like being a FF for the Dees - Frustrating and confusing.

And then there's this guy... (Can't stay on the board now surely?)

Not sure if serious? A lot of them (possibly bizarrely) seem rapt with him...

Yeah, you'd take bringing the ball to ground over being outmarked, but I'd still take an actual goal ahead of either...

Fair play mate. You're a very different beast on game day I've discovered!

I'd take a goal over the chance of possibly getting goal any day. 'Bringing the ball to ground is more important than goals' is one of the strangest comments I've read here, and I'm sure deep down you understand when coaches talk about bringing the ball to ground they aren't implying it's the best outcome when going forward; ahead of actually kicking a goal.

Ok.