Matsuo Basho

What is it in your opinion?

Jackson out. Pert in. Over the cliff we go. Connected events or coincidence? I’ve never been big on coincidences.

Max Rooke Troy Chaplin Ben Matthews Greg Stafford Justin Plapp Tell me I'm wrong but that list of former players does not scream "skill, vision and finesse" to me. ALL OF THEM were either backmen or good honest battlers. Maybe some assistant coaches who were renowned for their skills and vision might impart some teachings about skills and vision to our players? Just a thought. *Mods - The forward line coach thread should be subsumed into this broader one.

Oh please. Now you’ve officially leapt the selachimorpha. I can really picture Gandhi throwing a mock hand grenade at a crowd of Pakistanis. Ahimsa, brother. Ahimsa.

He is. What an indictment! Hunt for me is a back flanker every day of the week and twice on Sundays. We miss his run and carry greatly.

Can’t kick goals for love nor money so let’s go get another defender. Fantastic idea. For my own sanity I’m putting this article down to Keath’s manager pump-priming his client in negotiations with Adelaide.

Even though you (purportedly) won't read this, I'm aware of ProDee and can assure I am nothing like him at all. If you were truly reading and contemplating my posts this would be clear to you. You can't fit me in a neat little box. I'm neither Left, nor Right or Middle. I can understand I would seem "boring" to anyone stuck in in a loop of fixed political and philosophical reference points. Adieu.

It doesn't mean that at all. You're inventing a boogeyman that doesn't exist.

Be angry and non-conciliatory then. Lie down and stamp your feet. It doesn’t work among individuals. It doesn’t work among families. It doesn’t work among communities. It doesn’t work among racial and political groups and finally it doesn’t work as a platform of diplomacy among nation states. In another 200 years China will probably have a controlling interest in Australia and they’ll have even less time for centuries old indigenous grudges and grievances than the current political structure is allowing. Getting along and making the best of our cards as they fall is the best any of us can hope for. The tide does not care for those who wish to swim against the current.

Fritsch was easily among our best players today.

Jones - Retire gracefully champ  Viney - Bullocking without brains Gawn - Elevated reputation further Oliver - Hampered by injury Brayshaw - Tried but outclassed Hore - Gone past Jetta May - Cavalry arrives finally Lever - Solid considering lay-off Fritsch - Brave and polished  Salem - Rattled by bump Frost - Missed his pressure Hibberd - Staggering form loss Baker - Plenty of potential Harmes - Tried guts out Petracca - Better in middle Hannan - Straight to Casey  Weideman - Didn’t do enough Spargo - Not enough tricks Garlett - Last Melbourne game Hunt - Wasted in attack T. McDonald - Laughing after loss Wagner - A witches hat

Goodwin's got until QBD 2020, exactly 12 months, to right the ship and bring in the necessary reinforcements at trade time. Or he'll be gone. Have no doubt about it.This can't continue. Jackson and Roos are out there watching four years of work tossed on a bonfire.

It's the worst MFC forward line I've seen in 30 years. There's no magic in this team. All options are on the table in October. No-one bar Gawn, Oliver, May and Lever untouchable.

Gawn - 6 Fritsch - 5 Harmes - 4 Brayshaw - 3 Hore - 2 May - 1

Uhh, yes he is. Ultimately, he is.

I'm not amazed anymore. Some supporters will just continue on singing at the bar while the Titanic sinks.

It's sad to watch a champ plod around like he is now. Just sad.

Lyon, Jakovich, Schwarz, Farmer, Neitz, Robbo. Even Greeny and Jurrah gave us something to cheer about. Oh for the days when we had guns around goal. Sad and embarrassing. Worst there's nothing for young supporters to get excited about. No magic. Not playing Preuss to at least crash some packs and halve a few contests was criminal. Goodwin. Doubts doubts doubts.

Okay. No more to debate. The situation is diabolical. Who are we going after?

We have the most masochistic supporters in the league bar none.

Poor old man Jonesy. More cooked than a Bunnings snag at 5pm.

Agree. Has to go. Liability. Career in limbo.

Showing 'glimpses' doesn't win you games of football. I will repeat - if our supporters are happy to run with him and TMac as your talls again in 2020 we will finish bottom six. Again.

If either one of Weid or TMac can kick a goal in the last it will actually improve their combined overall goals average for the season to about 1.8/game. Jakovich and Lyon eat your heart out.

Petracca 1 touch this quarter with game on the line.