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Good luck, I really like how he comes across.

Perhaps not, but who knows. But perhaps they did for our seeming lack of ability to win at the MCG? (Admittedly against good teams). Perhaps it's lack of training on MCG-like grounds? Just postulating.

Don't be so Hard on yourself it wasn't stupid or meaningless

Do orchestras with >1 conductors exist?

Catchier than big tall socks and sandals. Or Monadue's Meander.

STOPPPP IT TOO MUCH GOOD IDEA

Whilst i see where you're coming from....

It's not just about which train station is a better choice dv8. If you can't see that then this is a pointless discussion

I think finals will see mfc hitting 50k.

Cannot judge on a data set of n=1

Totally get what DV8 and hells bells are saying how to circle the square ? to me the access are important but so are the commercial realities. Eg pub, commercial spaces, gym , quieter access etc of the Jolimont proposal fascinating dissection all!

Sorry I would need to see a heat map of the post codes of members to qualify this statement otherwise do you have some other valid survey / research upon which this assertion is based re: where our supporter stronghold is not saying we shouldn't expand

I'm playing funny nuggets

They can have him then watching the game last 10 min unsighted youre not allowed one bad game on that money good to have a few flouro players assisting

There's lots of possible objections I guess it's a case of what's rationale and has a sound basis

I'm green on the environment (amongst other things) and it's a go

Really good insights - thanks for taking the time to write it

This comment biggest laugh for me of the day Thanks (Even though the both parties have been infiltrated. Jules Bishop Glorious Foundation etc etc - sorry, couldn't resist)

This ^ (subtle demon branding please in the cafe etc without being off putting)

Oh, cool. That makes sense. Interesting alternative.

OKie dokes. The growth issue is something else altogether - appears as though opposition to the population ponzi may be growing but the property/housing ponzi has much power so who knows how that plays out. Also too, most of the growth is West and SE of the city and I'd be interested to understand what proportion of that growth uses the city (as opposed to driving to train stations to commute in). I take the broader point about PT/cars etc and don't disagree people will still want/need cars. Be awesome to see some bike parking facilities/showers etc there too maybe (they may be better placed in the city). Anyway, all very interesting! Not finding the labels particularly useful FWIW.

going to pack this apart - the plan for the CBD is just that, the CBD. The proposed positioning is what, 1.1km from the Spring St Wellington Pde corner. I doubt that the proposed 30km/h pedestrian overlay would extend there, so in reality this could be a very good spot for a car park. The way Australian society is, and with the delays in/lack of proper public transport, there's still going to be a lot of car traffic looking for parking and driving around especially in that corridor. (your other points about consultation etc are obviously apt)

Can you imagine this thread on the Collingwood boards? I feel the dissection of options - delving into planning, change management, staff accommodation, traffic considerations, marketing, revenue, community value add, community engagement, future planning, etc - it really is a cut above. Bravo, all.

No, but you mentioned Bentleigh, Moorabbin, Sandy, Cranbourne etc. Why mention them if you don't think they're options. So, where do you think it should be built?

Geez 50 in one day!