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The other Mann - Len. A ruckman and cousin (?) of the first Mann Bob Miller - first permanent back pocket ruckman in the days when there were four followers (ruckman) who used to rest in a forward or back pocket (where else did Gary Dempsey take so many marks in the last quarter?). Bob was not really a ruckman but a dashing defender. Peter Smith - Norm's son

Basil Onyons is the correct spelling. 1905-1908. He also played first class cricket for Victoria after WW1. Met him once in the mid 60s when he was quite old.

Ray Groom - premier of Tasmania (was given 31 after RDB left) Tony Thiessen - played a blinder at CHF at the MCG in one game (I think against Fitzroy) in the early 60s and then no more Owen Zinko - the great hope of his time Alastair Clarkson, Antony MacDonald and Stephen Powell - the best front running, left footed goal scorers from 2000 complementing Shane Woewodin (definitely not obscure) Russell Richards - a true rhino who couldn't conform to RDB disciplined playing style but at his best could be an AVB on steroids Simon Godfrey - like the duracell bunny who never stopped running to make position but who was constantly ignored (sometimes because he ran to the wrong spot but at least he ran to make position when others merely waved their arms) Maurie Bartlett - man mountain who was still huge 40 years later but worn down by a labouring life Doug Koop and Dean Chiron - journeymen footballers who became indispensable members of the 1987 finals campaign David Flintoff - Garry's cousin?

Molloy father and son - Graham and Glenn. Trevor Korn - played 2 games (?) in the Barassi era.

Neitz CHB. Great as Gary Hardeman was he strengths were speed, skill and marking but not the strength to go toe to toe with a Carey. Gary would find it too hard to displace either Noel McMahon or Don Williams on a HBF but would make a great wingman (where he started) and probably displace Dixon who was a one trick pony (but a thoroughbred when it came to finding the ball) with poor kicking skills at a time when territory was king. If not then a place on the bench would have to be found. He was that good but, because of our then deficiencies, mostly played out of position but he was so good is was not noticed.

HB will now have the time to really heal. All going well he will be worth a lot more when this madness is over.

Nathan Brown - doggie

Thanks. Max got the nickname for his bowling action not his footy. His was an ungainly bow;ling action and he seemed to tangle up his feet as he approached the crease. Didn't stop him being a champion test bowler just as an ungainly kicking style does not always mean a poor kick. Just think of Phil Krakouer who held the ball in what seemed to be the wrong hand.

Brian Leahy - wrecker

I watched the ball sail towards me. A goal for all time. You had to be first.

Please don't use them all at once. This thread may have to last a few weeks.

For something to fill the time during the social separation why don't we start never ending threads on the well known nicknames for past and present players. I will start with Froggy - Neil Crompton premiership player and goal sneak. Please add your own and keep this rolling. We might need it for some time.

No rush but does anyone know what will happen to our scarves? Let's hope that there will be a season after May when we can collect and wear them.

+1. Continuously at the highest level.

Be careful with this analysis. MCG is home ground for many teams and so we do not have the same potential advantage as teams who do not share. Look at filth's %. Top four teams have been the standout teams since 2015.

At the end of the game it is the team that has scored most that wins, not the team that has most possessions or displayed greater courage or commitment. Sending the ball through the big sticks is the name of the game and why talented forwards have been prized forever. Maxie can get all the hitouts to advantage and Clarrie can get 60+ possessions but unless we score we are toast. TMAC at his best can score. That's why he is the most valuable, even though not necessarily the best.

He can be a gun so long as he doesn't try to do too much when in possession. Get the ball and get rid of the ball to advantage. By now he should be experienced enough to play this style without causing us to lose possession due to trying to be too tough. Perhaps it is a legacy of trying to hard to lift the team when we were performing poorly. Now that he is no longer captain he can revert to his game before he was elevated and injured.

I like Mooney. 2020 Go dees.

@skuit I never posted about monkeys. @demonland Someone has posted a fake comment in my name. Please investigate and fix.

To @Skuit Thanks for the suggestions (I have used them before) but I prefer to keep my postings as short (in length) as possible. Some posters quote long entries and add only a single line of commentary. I find these posts wasteful. Navigating these threads is hard enough without spending time scrolling through pages and pages of repeated entries.

to PaulRB Agree. The best captains can swing the momentum of a game. I recall how Garry would move on to the ball when we were lagging and lift the team by his own effort and leadership. None of our captains since have had this ability. I hope Maxie has.

To La DVC There are very few players with the awareness and intelligence to be good on field leaders. There are plenty of media and pr people at a club to fill the role. Think Maxie before he was made captain. I want to win games, not hearts, minds and clicks. They will follow if we win games. My first choice was TMac because I have seen his leadership on the field in close games.

The captain should be the on field leader of the team. Not the media darling nor the pr front man for the club. So long as Maxie provides the on field leadership and direction I don't care how he speaks or how entertaining the press conferences are. Nathan Jones was a great captain who led from the front and whose only weak point was that he could not lift the team in a match. Should we ever get silverware while he is still playing, his hand should be on the trophy together with the captain and the coach. My hope is that Maxie can add the extra dimension and lead our club to success. 2020 Go dees. Go Maxie's mob/mates/maulers/mugs/mass/multitude/ - add your own.

2007 was the year that it all fell into place for cats. The squad was mostly 5+ years into their careers (many had been drafted in the early 00s) and they had played together as a team for three to four seasons. They were primed. Should apply to us. 2020 Go dees.

Who cares?