leave it to deever

Backlines may keep you in a game or season for a while. But forward lines win flags. Always was. Will always be.

Why do we all feel something fishy is going on? Because it's the Afl and there usually us. I hope they do right by a bloke who has really had concussion issues. It's the right thing to suspend. If they don't it's open season.

I'd hate to see hin clean someone up intentionally. That vision shows a clear delineation into poor Gus's head from a significant hight at considerable speed. That's some damning vision. Couldn't have made more contact. Give me a break. He jumped before Gus even kicked. There was intent for sure just a question of how much. He knew contact would be made before he jumped. He just used the smother as a guise. He came out hard in the first few minutes of the game and hopefully will get the month he deserves. Suck it up Maynard but you wanted to hurt someone and you did. Big time. Now it's your turn. Wear it like a man. Gus did.

https://wwos.nine.com.au/afl/finals-2023-melbourne-demons-angus-brayshaw-concussed-collingwood-magpies-brayden-maynard-clash/29d57409-a2ce-41f9-b82e-7a3ffb8ab77c Hard to read this...how shattered he is but then talks about how innocent he is. Maybe taken out of context but all the pundits defending him too gives me the s12ts. So any one can smother by launching themselves 4ft in the air at breakneck speed ( lucky it wasnt) at a player with their arms in tge air and land by completely taking off the head of an opponent. Even with tge benefit of doubt how can this act not be negligent. How could one not think it may be dangerous? If the afl is one percent fair dinkum about head injuries he will get a minimum of 3 weeks. No ifs and or bits. And Richo can go and GS.

Not responding to what happened to Gus is the most embarrassing and annoying thing about this club. We should have crunched them at every turn. Laid twice as many tackles. And I mean tackles that rattle and leave a reminder.. I'm sorry but it was a soulless game after that.where we didn't stick up for our mate. We were bullied and didn't fight back.

Disagree. He had a cameo performance on the wing there where he danced around 3 pies players . Was unsighted in the second half. Totally.

Perfect analysis.

Seen the odd usa flag on occasion. Give me a break.

Sounds about right. I'll wager he gets two with some sort of suspended sentence and they'll close the loophole at tge start of next season. It's cfc remember and we can't let them lose.

Says it all really. And a player with serious prior concussion issues. Just scum. No wonder people hate them. Shame on the media for defending Maynard. They couldn't stop talking over one another in an effort to clear him. Instead of calling out the Pies woeful chant while a young bloke lies motionless on the ground. I hope the Afl really make an example of the bloke just to stick it up their dog supporters. And I'd like to say it's a small minority but sadly that chant was joined in by more than a few. How utterly bloody callous and wrong. Congrats to Jack who batted for his mate. Personally I would have liked more retaliation, but maybe that's just coming down to their sub level. Get a life you toothless, wife bashing, racist, homophobic, simple minded, arrogant pieces of stone.

Thre finals on the trot lost. Will Goidy come out again and say how much it drives us? I know he's duty bound to front up to the press but gee I wish we would just have the luxury of being quiet. Or have someone else speak for him. To say how ready and prepared we are and play half a game is embarrassing. Imagine if we weren't. Wish was clearly the case.

Yeah, watched a pies supporter just screaming at demons supporters around him at the end of the game. Continually screaming f off C**TS. Really aggressive. The cops nearby just rolled their eyes. Such humility and grace in victory. Club culture And racist.

I'm sorry for your experience. I don't to get to many games since moving interstate but a close mate of mine I his 50s has been going all his life. He reckons there has been a marked change in the behaviour of crowds , in particular tigers and pies games. He has been verbally abused, threatened and twice pushed over the last few years. He reckons there are some games he's genuinely afraid to go to especially the ones just mentioned. There's a reason they are called the filth. More than a few of their supporters have an element of dirty minds and agro.

I don't think Tommo will ever get a game. He was fantastic in KB but it didn't help him. Bowey was great. My issue with Lever was his lack of marking and no effort in tackling. He also butchered it in the first q and got in May's way more than once.

Why does Lever get votes? He butchered it in the first quarter. Never tackled and managed only 3 narky with 11 touches. Got in Mays way a couple of times too. Also Sparrow was horrible the first half.

Great post but by back 6 I hope you don't include Lever and Salem.

I don't think we can know his intention. But even with the benefit of doubt no suspension gives a clear loophole to allow players to do what the Afl has seemed to vehemently stop this year. It's pretty straightforward and the only real way to protect players from serious damage . I guess will find out. Or will it let him off because it's the cfc in finals and then say we got it wrong when it becomes open season with the smother and knock-out .

It's a "good" point. I think I'd rather a hard yelling hyped up on the edge coach at times who yells at players and pumps them up. Maybe he does behind closed doors. But your right the motivation needs to come from the players . And if seeing your mate carried off like that doesn't get your blood pumping then nothing will. I'd like to think maybe it distracted them but our slow starts have been there all year.

A rookie from Benalla 2nds would give us more than Schache and Tmac. But in all seriousness did we leave every stone unturned? I think we just thought oh wait let's get another ruck. Good clubs go out of their way to get the players they need. And they make ruthless choices with tge ones tvey dont. How long did we persist with Weid when all signs said otherwise. He had 5 seasons I think. I'm just saying that the problems with Tmac surfaced two years ago. We seemed to go out of our way for mids and smalls for a time and neglect kpps.

Is he doing his job? This has been a problem all year so someone is not doing their job. I'll retract my statement and simply say whoever is responsible isn't doing their job well. Sadly you can't argue with the facts. I wish it were not so but last night was the penultimate eg of this. Not just the behinds or lack of distance but the many out of bounds on the full. Perhaps find someone else to address this because nobody can say it's not an issue.

I wish Goody would just come out and say the truth for once. We were bloody terrible for half a game and disgusting in our goal kicking. Maynard is a dog. The problem with our learnings is that they never really happen. We have been slow starters and poor shots at goal all season. Just say it mate and then maybe we can go about fixing it. Acknowledging it is the first step. You might even learn something. And point out that it seems we are the new Western bulldogs now. And put your hand up for some very very poor selection which is your fault alone and that you need help in this area. It's not like the Pies are a better team. They beat us because they were more focussed and didn't choke like us. At least for the first half. And as head coach, I must accept I have failed in my efforts to address our poor shots at goal. It has been an issue all year that I haven't remotely fixed. Also I have not recruited well. Instead of getting a couple of fwds I thought I'd choose a ruckman who has never been able to mark and throw him at our problematic fwd line. If I sound angry it's because we should have won last night. Cfc are not a better team. We lost and lost in the manner that has been similar with so many games. It's almost as if yea we got the flag in 21. That will do. I hope Gus is OK. If Maynard gets off then it's open season on smothering the ball and cleaning up opponents at the same time. Simple.

How many games this year have we fought really hard to come back and win? Why do we not play like this all day? What is going on with a team tgat can't start well? Is it a concentration or motivation issue. It's been a pattern all year and while I appreciate the never say die attitude we would do so much better if we could just simply play 4 quarters for a change. Especially our midfield. Also the person responsible for goal kicking skills is a complete spud and not doing their job.

Was it really a fight back or a case of us not fronting up for half a game of footy. Not like it hasn't happened before.

I'm angry too. And I really dont think it's without reason. We are perennial slow starters. Why? The club has made some poor choices with not recruiting young fwds. I mean big fwds. Grundy can't mark but yet some genius thought he would be a forward option. Selection. Laurie as a sub? With. I mean hey Goody he's a kid with no experience. And guess what tge sub sometimes has to play a whole game by the way. Tmac. Great servant who had tge opportunity to give his all with nothing to lose and go out on a high note. Nup. Just the opposite. Poor kicking at goal. A problem all season that we just ignore. Midfield that apply themselves are the game is lost. Langdon, Lever, Salo and Hunter . Senior players who young Bowey showed them how to play. Players like Chandler being gifted games. Our constant talking ourselves up in the media. Seen this movie before.

I don't care if we lose. Tmac has no business playing. There I've said it. Jvr will get a week but that's no biggy. He will be a very good player in 2 years. Why we haven't tried Thommo fwd I don't understand. We have trialled two other defenders. Any one than Tmac. I think we all groaned for this reason when Milk went down. We have carried McDonald for two years and I do mean carried. He cannot run or mark. We have Fritra who has missed half a season and then Kozzie who has been average for half a season. The club has been caught napping over its inertia towards fixing our fwd line. We saw Bbb and Tmac imploding a long time ago. We knew Milk was on tge cusp of retirement. We ignored the fact that Jvr was just beginning. But in our arrogance we thought we had enough players even if we did have to butcher our backline. Than some Einstein said let's fix it with a nother ruckman who can play fwd. Despite the fact the bloke cannot take a mark. Also was the idea behind Schscke. Was he ever any good as a fwd anywhere?