ArtificialWisdom

Just now, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

The title suggests he has been invited to train, but the OP doesn't actually say so. Please clarify...has he been invited to train or not?

The biggest problem for me is the idea that Melbourne (and Vic based Freo supporters) would miss out just so different fans can attend as if they're more important. Last time we had a round 1 game against an interstate side there was nearly 39,000 in attendance, granted that was after a prelim but this year it's after being starved of footy for 18 months. 

Every Vic club is going to have to take it's turn at Marvel across the year. Ours comes a week later against the Saints. No way in hell any of us will get to go to that. Particularly given the Saints are interstate in round 1. I'd be pretty disappointed if we get kicked off the G, some of us miss out, then we can't get in round 2 then we're interstate round 3. 

Why would it even be a consideration? We already have too many key forwards. Even with those 2 injured one of LJ, TMac, and MBrown will most likely miss out. Not to mention Petty (if fit) could fill in for a few weeks in a pinch. 6 key forward options on the list is more than enough. Missing our 2 first choice keys isn't good but it's not like we need to pick up another. 

1 hour ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

Yes, given the short pre season you'd have to think May has a niggle of some sort. Hopefully he gets back to main training ASAP as he clearly benefits from a healthy pre season

Gawn and Gus mentioned in their podcast that May rolled his ankle over the Xmas break and it's still working back to full training.

24 minutes ago, goodoil said:

if what you are referring to is Ugle-Hagan points, would the Bulldogs be stupid enough to trade Dunkley for material that is going to be consumed in the bidding process?  It makes no sense whatsoever.

I wouldn't suggest that they would trade Dunkley just for points. But if they had got 8 and a future 1st like they wanted for him then they would have wanted to trade 8 out until the bid comes so that it doesn't get absorbed. 

4 minutes ago, goodoil said:

no club is stupid enough to use the AFL Draft Value Index as a trade guide.

Except for one who needs to match a bid for a top 5 pick. 

we need the Dunkley deal to go through. if that happens 18 and 19 are worth more than any one of 6, 7 or 8

On 9/26/2020 at 11:35 AM, Hannibal Inc. said:

Merrett is a gun.  I'd love to get him, but it's obviously unlikely.

His disposal was always exceptional, but it has dropped off recently.  I've seen enough to know it's far from an issue.  A happy mind would fix things pretty quickly.

Brayshaw is an interesting trade proposition.  To get Merrett you'd do it in a heartbeat.  I've not pined over a single player that's left us recently (including Howe), because I've known what you're going to get.  Brayshaw is the one player that would have me nervous.  Why ?  Because I'm not sure what he could become.  He has the natural talent to be elite.  For me it's above the shoulder with Angus.  If the penny ever truly drops he could come back to make you regret trading him.  But for a player of Merrett's quality you'd definitely take the gamble.  With Merrett you're certain what you're getting and he'd add exactly the polish we lack.

 

I'd hypothesise that Merrett's kicking efficiency has gone down as a result of being forced into an inside mid role because they're so lacking in quality inside mids. The same as how Brayshaw's numbers have dropped being played on the outside. Both player's have the potential to have spikes if they swapped because they would both get moved into roles they are more suited for.

That said I have doubts Brayshaw would agree to that deal, I suspect it is Freo or stay. As for Harmes who was mentioned by others, I suspect his long term contract would decrease his trade value in a deal like this. I like Harmes and don't have a problem with his deal for us, but if I was Essendon I wouldn't be so keen.

I like to look at what Essendon want, If Joe leaves there's interest in Ben Brown and North has interest in TMac. If we were able to facilitate a deal where we could offer Essendon Ben, a future first (or Viney compensation should that eventuate) and probably a little more. We might at least get them to the table. We'd need to find who/what Essendon actually wants and exploit it. Of course this is all academic because the chances are slim to none that they'd deal on anything. 

13 hours ago, Little Goffy said:

absolutely no would they be offering up either of their two potentially gun key forwards.  After McKay and Curnow

I'll preface this by saying I have 0 mail on this and doubt we are interested anyway. But logically, given Curnow's injury history, I think they would be open to a deal if the right one came up. That was essentially our reasoning behind trading Hogan. We realised we could get May so we got we let Hogan go. Carlton again is linked to quite a few players, if they need a deal done and we came knocking (and Curnow was open to the idea) then they'd have to consider it.

19 hours ago, Rusty Nails said:

The Cat's cut him pretty quickly.  I would be worried as to why.  They don't suffer fools gladly down there.  Would need to do some serious homework / background checks first imv.

You may be right, but given they're linked to half the competition's free agents it may just be they've run out of list spots

Mathematical if we only win 1 it is technically possible but close enough to impossible to ignore. 
Realistically we must win both and have any one of the following happen:

WB lose one of their last two (Haw, Freo) and keep our ~6% lead
Coll lose both (Suns, Port) their draw makes percentage irrelevant
Stk lose both (WC, GWS) and we must make up ~8% 

I expect the maximum pain, so this will likely have us win both and then be forced to endure 2017 all over again watching us fall from inside the 8 to out after our last game. When either the Dogs or the Pies win the following 2 days

14 minutes ago, Elwood 3184 said:

Would Eddie McGuire ever, in these circumstances, agreed for Collingwood to be the club that has to play two games within four days in the heat and humidity of Cairns with less time to acclimatize than their opposition?

Hell no!

Where were our people?

Collingwood had one of the hardest runs in the first footy frenzy. Perth -> Bris -> Adel -> Bris in 13 days. But of course we didn't care when we got the soft kill in the last of those 4 games

He wont get the nomination over Riccardi this week. But he's only played 5 games with just 4 H&A games to go. Odds high that he'll still be eligible next year. If he can get a nomination in the run home, both he and LJ will be a chance to add to our list of multi-nomination players. Jones, Blease and Gysberts is some real hit and miss company  

16 minutes ago, Josh said:

I watched a fantastic video from Veritasium about luck that really makes one question success in general.

Thumbs up for quality Youtube viewing. As for luck tonight, 3 sitters missed by the saints in the first half and Trac's kick bouncing at right angles to a goal is the luck we needed

25 minutes ago, Lord Nev said:

Haven't followed him very closely, but Rory Atkins has announced he'll leave Adelaide as an unrestricted free agent this year. Know he's meant to be quick and a decent kick (?), would he be handy depth? I'd see him as an upgrade on players like Jones, vandenBerg, Dunkley and the Wagners.

Anyone followed him more in-depth?

 

Just saw this too. I haven't followed him much either but as a realistic option at 100 odd games, in his mid 20s and is officially available I'd be very interested

6 minutes ago, dazzledavey36 said:

If Weid had played from round 1 like he bloody should have then he would easily be winning our goal kicking. 

Actually don't be surprised if he does. In good form.

I've been wondering if there's a little bit of Brayshaw of 2018 about his season. Out of the side until he genuinely earns his spot then comes in and plays his best footy

1 minute ago, WERRIDEE said:

What would you call it then?

I'm not trying to be a smartarse (maybe a little). But I would describe team structure as the roles and their purpose within our 22. In theory you should be able to write up our whole structure and what each role entails without mentioning a single player name. Different teams have different collections of roles and it is a very fair discussion to have that our structure is not working well enough and needs to change. But I would describe this thread as a rebranding of "Our Best 22" without that title because you're disappointed (and rightfully so) with player performances on Thursday

Just out of curiosity, @WERRIDEE how would you define "Team Structure". You've called the thread "The Team Structure" then commented on the quality of individual players broken into forward, back, midfield and interchange.... 

Out Fritch, TMac, Brayshaw Jones

In AVB, Bennell, Jordan Rivers

Harmes to move to high HF role. Bennell for TMac to fix disastrous 3 tall structure, Jordan and AVB replace Brayshaw and Jones in midfield rotation. Statement for Brayshaw and as scheduled AVB return for Jones

Omac May Lockhart

Hibbard Lever Salem

Langdon Viney AVB

Harmes Jackson Melksham

Hannan Weid Pickett

Gawn Trac Oliver

Bennell Jordan Rivers Sparrow

Reading the thread title I half expected the op to just be "we don't kick it between those 2 big posts often enough"

2 minutes ago, leave it to deever said:

Karen from bunnings...the psychic reports Dees will win.

 

Really? Well, best I bet the farm on Port

6 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

If we play Ess in NT you can bet we will be travelling to Darwin!!

I'd love to play Ess in Darwin, They have no experience playing in those conditions 

This might explain the odd location

10 minutes ago, Pulp Fritschon said:

 The Cats started 2-3 in 2007 

Don't give me hope, hope ends in heartache