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It's shocking. In my opinion, the downsides and drawbacks of the DRS system far outweigh the benefits it brings.

And that's why you save your reviews.

Flashbacks of 2005!

Our players are still too reactive. Hopefully with experience and a few wins, they'll start to make the play more often. We're going to learn a whole lot about our boys over the next 6 rounds. Games against Brisbane, GC, GWS and the Western Bulldogs will show where we're at against teams similar to us - hopefully we'll find that a few players are desperate to play senior footy and can do so at a higher level than they've shown.

Only two less contested disposals, 17 less overall and 100 tackles. All three of these areas we would be significantly behind opposition sides in the first half of the year. Need to clean up turnovers and improve our ball use around half forward going forward.

Can't say Dawes can be blamed for anything today. Inside 50s this quarter are 20-1. He's a tall forward being played 2 on 1 in terrible conditions. Flood gates are opening...

What a boring argument. One person uses logic, stats, quotes and thought to construct an argument. The other person responds with generalisation and throw away comments, not to mention mis-truths. This will be my last post on this issue as I believe I have stated my point of view pretty clearly and the thread will get nothing out of it continuing.

Ah yes. Of course. so simple. They said it because they didn't believe it... About as good as the time you claimed the players had stopped tackling... after those same players laid 55 tackles in a half of footy...

Your wardrobe could single-handedly save the MFC and return it to past glories!

"Dream on," "You are a dill" and "are you watching the game?" Some intelligent responses coming out

Ricciuto and King agree. "Melbourne's effort today has been first class and they're just up against an opposition that is just too good for them." "You just want to see the players have a go and young kids come through - and they're ticking those boxes."

55 tackles in a half of footy - heading towards a team record high tackles. Playing the best team in the comp, probably the best team of the modern era and arguably the best team of all time. We are the second worst side in the competition. We are playing in Geelong, where they have won 37 of their last 38 matches (only losing to that year's Premier by a couple of goals). Effort is not the problem. Strength around the ball, proper use of the ball and knowledge of where to run are much bigger issues. Cats players working players off the ball and using teammates who instinctively run to the right areas make a team look like they aren't trying. Geez - any time a better team [censored] a lower team people whinge that the players aren't trying - conveniently ignoring the glaring differences between the sides. It's a dullards way of looking at a game (such as today's) where people essentially are saying that if the players tried harder we'd be winning. You mean like when we beat a terrible Bulldogs side by 3 points or when we were comfortably beaten by a side in first gear on our home ground in perfect weather for footy? You look like you're looking for cheap excuses and easy answers - they don't look like they're playing under the weight of 186, you look like you're desperately trying to attach an association that isn't there. Lack of run? It's bloody wet weather footy against a side dominating stoppages and using numbers well - we are a crap side with crap decision makers and terrible skills.

To say our boys aren't trying is naive at best and malicious at worst.

A poor decision for sure, but it shouldn't be forgotten the reason we couldn't challenge it. The referral of the LB earlier in the day was absolutely shocking and completely wasted our last review. Costly. While Pattinson should've known better, I place the blame pretty squarely with Haddin. He should've known the ball was passing leg by a mile and said as much immediately. Could cost us dearly, if it hasn't already.

Ed Cowan! What in the world were you thinking?!?

Siddle with 5 of 6!

This is a bit early as I'm heading away for a couple of days. ROUND 16 Collingwood v Adelaide Form: Decent vs Average Head to Head: Pies with the last 5 Pies’ Favour: Hit form big time last weekend on the same stage. Will enjoy a massive home ground advantage and have the wood over the Crows of late. Possible return of Beams would be massive but, regardless, the Pies should have too much class through the middle and through Cloke for the Crows.They prefer to be underdogs so it’ll be interesting to see how they respond this week - flashbacks of their letdown against the Swans after rolling the Cats though Adelaide are not in that league. Crows’ Favour: Somehow they’re still alive for finals (albeit a longshot) and will have nothing to lose. For guys like Dangermouse and VBV, that could spell a run on at the G and, if Jenkins and Jacobs can get going, they could be tricky to handle. Verdict: Really, this screams of an end of season mid-low table clash between two clubs not going far this year. Collingwood have found an Ace in the form of Ben Reid which could aid their Septermber charge but they still don’t seem much like their Premiership side as all 22 refuse to click for 4 quarters. If they do, however, watch out. The Pies have the wood on the Crows and won’t let this one drop. A good run-in to the finals will see the Pies pressing their claims late-on and they’ll be looking to hit form. Adelaide won’t go away easily but Collingwood will have too much class through the middle, too many goalkickers and a defense that can cover the Crows forwards - especially after McKernan’s “brain”-fade. Tip: Pies by 37 Port Adelaide v Hawthorn Form: Around the mark vs On the money Head to head: Hawks with the last 4 Power’s favour: At home, Port Adelaide showed in consecutive weeks that they can be hard to stop. Relentless at the footy, attacking with ball in hand and potentially potent in front of goal, the Power midfield has got on top of two of the better midfields in the game in recent weeks. Letting a massive opportunity last week may kick them into action, the Power will be itching to keep their spot in the 8 intact. Hawks’ favour: They’re be absolutely smarting after last week’s outing. In all honesty, they never really looked like winning (in any deserved fashion, anyhow). They’ll be looking to get back to controlling the footy and using it well. The return of Guerra would add some much beloved grunt at the Brown and Gold and Cyril will be better for the run. Verdict: A tricky match to read, this one. It’s difficult to ignore Port’s devastating blitz against the Swans or absolute control of the Pies. Unfortunately, it’s equally as tough to disregard their insipid show against the Tigers or their inability to put away an undermanned Bombers side last week (albeit away from home). If they can put enough pressure on the ball carrier, they will go a long way to pushing the Hawks. The loss of Westhoff, however, could be costly. Hawthorn should be able to dominate Power inside 50s and they will find it hard to score against Gibson and co. Hawthorn may have lost last week, but it can’t be forgotten that they had won 12 in a row beforehand and are still, arguably, the best team in the league. Also, their last 3 wins against the Power have come at an average of 94 points. All in all, Power have the ability to pressure the Hawks’ mids (which the Cats showed last week can murder the Hawks) but overall will lack the firepower to make it count. Hawthorn will be smarting and, if they’re harder at the footy than Port, may just make this another demolition. Tip: Hawks by 43 Geelong v Melbourne Form: Geelongesque vs Slight improvements Head to heard: Cats with the last 8 (cop that, Hawks) Cats’ favour: Three pretty big ones here. 1. They’re at home. They’re Geelong. They’re playing Melbourne. They have too much class in the middle, creative forwards and quality, seasoned defenders. Furthermore, they can adapt their game plan at the drop of the hat and showed against Freo that they can be incredibly hard to score against - whilst scoring a bucket-load themselves. Demons’ favour: This game will go the standard length. Last week’s outing against the Swans was better than anything seen in the first half of the season. Genuine attack at the ball, protection of ball players, some continued aggressive use of the footy had the Demons looking less Melbourne and more...a slightly better team. Still not enough quality players anyone on the park but, especially, on the ball. Verdict: How far Geelong? Interestingly, they’re not intent on winning clearances. That should come as great news for Melbourne’s brigade of onballers who suffer severe forms of allergy when it comes to this statistic. It’ll be hard to see the Cats switched on, for a range of reasons, and Melbourne showed last year that it can relatively match a disinterested Cats outfit. Look for Melbourne to be annoying for most of the afternoon, but only for those who have backed Geelong over the line. Tip: Cats by 57 Richmond v Gold Coast Form: Shown up? vs Fading Head to head: Gold Coast with a perfect 2 from 2 Tigers’ favour: Surely their flogging at the hands of North will wake them from the slumber that usually arrives for this fixture and they won’t drop it for a third time. I rated North to win last week but was surprised by the margin and the ease. Richmond will need to rebound hard to regain a little respect - and they have the players to do it and are still, overall, a better team than the Suns. Suns’ favour: In a way, they might benefit from having their finals chances shot. 3 weeks ago they sat at 5-6 with finals a realistic prospect. 0-3 later and it’s back to development and backing themselves in. They’ll enter this game with confidence and, possibly more importantly, Gary Ablett Jnr. The man is simply a freak and could keep them in this fixture on his own if needs be. Verdict: This game will follow similar patterns for the Suns of late. They’ll enter with confidence, will take it up to the Tigers but ultimately I think they’ll fade as Richmond’s improved ball use and organization down back pays dividends. Gold Coast won’t get the easy goals they managed last year and Richmond will be out to atone for last week’s poor showing. Tip: Tigers by 32 Carlton v St Kilda Form: Revealed vs Plucky Head to head: Saints love this fixture. Have won the past 4, the Blues won the two before that but the Saints won the 12 before that. Blues’ favour: ... One could argue that last week was an anomaly. 7 losses by under 23 points previously, the Blues terrible outing was probably one out of the box. It also shouldn’t be forgotten that they dominated the Pies early with the Blues trademark - soft frontrunning. Notwithstanding, Carlton have shown lately that they can go close to much better sides and have shown the important knack of beating sides below them. So much depends on Waite - far too much in my view. Betts may not get up, but that’ll probably be a bonus for the Blues who simply cannot carry so many people who only contribute one way. Saints’ favour: They’re coming off an immensely impressive display. All and sundry expected a flogging last weekend, and that was before their inspirational skipper pulled out. Through the undeniable Lenny Hayes, the Saints even pulled within 3 points of the much higher-rated Dockers mid-way through the last. St Kilda also have a love affair with playing the Blues, winning 16 of the past 18 - and one of the losses was by a meagre 3 points. Verdict: Which Carlton turns up? You’d have to say they’ll come ready to play. If they play the way they did against the Swans, they’ll get the points. All-in-all they should have too much class for St Kilda who would welcome back Saint Nick with open arms. St Kilda’s form in the fixture will count for something and they’ll take heart from their showing last Sunday. Carlton should get the points in a bit of an arm wrestle that, in the greater scheme, will mean absolutely nothing. Tip: Blues by 28 Brisbane vs North Melbourne Form: Quarter by Quarter vs Finding the mark Head to head: North with the last 3 and 4 of the last 5 Lions’ favour: They love a game at home. Regularly, this Lions outfit has shown over the years that it can match it with anyone at the GABBA - at any point of the game! Tough midfielders are a dime a dozen up there and big Berger is finally showing his wares with a bit of fitness behind him. Another stat (that will appear later on) is that North hate the Gabba. Roos’ favour: Finally - North Melbourne have turned the corner... Well...they’re approaching the corner anyway. Saturday was a huge step for this football club. Roos players were able to unleash their frustrations of a wasted season out on a hapless Tigers outfit that simply couldn’t match the Roos in any meaningful way. Somehow, the Roos are only two games out of finals (less percentage) and have a run-in that includes Carlton, Melbourne before a tough final 5. If they’re to be any show for a finals surge, this is a must win. Shinboner spirit? * Verdict: North. This really could be anything and I wouldn’t be surprised if they choke again (after all, kicking quick goals is Brisbane’s forte and North hate stopping a run-on) but I think North should get the job done. More to play for, more ball users and some dangerous forwards should prove too much for Brisbane. In all honesty, I’m never 100% sure how North do get their wins - but I know it needs all players playing their part. Helpfully, Moloney and Black will miss - this could prove trouble for Redden and Rockliff as Greenwood and Hine focus in on the two playmakers. Remarkably, North have only won twice at the Gabba in 11 outings. Nevertheless, I think the Rooboys will get it done. The margin is the tricky bit. My gut tells me it’ll be close. North’s average winning margin is 57 points. Brisbane’s average losing margin is 44. North beat Brisbane by 63 earlier this season. I’ll provide two tips I think! Tips: North by 15 or 48 Sydney vs GWS Form: Winning vs Losing Head to head: Swans 3-0 Swans’ favour: See Geelong (Above). They’re a machine who are just getting the job done - mostly in a pretty low gear. Gun midfielders are now being complemented by a dominate key forward - not seen in Sydney since BBBBH. It’ll be interesting to see if Rohan returns as I note he is available in the injury list and this could be the game to come in for. Giants’ favour: The SCG is a nice ground to visit. They may also be heartened by a half decent showing against the Dogs - leading at all changes only to be pipped at the line by experiences. Verdict: Similar to last week for the Swans. It depends if/how much they care. Whilst they didn’t particularly seem to care last week, they’ll be frustrated at letting a percentage boosting opportunity go to waste and they’ll want to hit some form before matches against WC (away) Richmond (home) Collingwood (A) Cats (A) and Hawks (h) over the last 7 rounds. Tip: Swans by 94 Western Bulldogs v Essendon Form: Terrible vs mind-boggling Head to head: Bombers with the last 3 and 4 of the last 5 Dogs’ favour: Whilst they’ve been terrible for much of the season/last 12 months the Dogs still give the impression that, on their day, they can surprise teams. They’ve pushed Geelong and Freo and rolled higher-fancied sides in St Kilda, Brisbane and Port. Essendon are surely due a down game and, if the Dogs are on their toes, they may be able to sneak a surprise ala 2000. Bombers’ favour: They have a list full of players who seem to be playing every game like it will be their last. Had every reason to lose last week but refused to. Will miss Watson and Stanton but still have enough run and arrogance through the middle to bulldoze most sides. Prone to let-downs, they’ll need to make sure they’re up for this one. Verdict: The Bombers’ will be without their inspirational skipper Jobe Watson and, most likely, the handy Brent Stanton. Unfortunately for the Dogs, they’re missing their own talisman Matthew Boyd. Whilst there’s a nagging thought in my mind that the Dogs will be plucky, I’m also aware that they were terrible against Melbourne and lucky against a worse side than the Dees. The margin could be of interest. Bombers have won 11 by 10 by under 46. I’m tipping this to split the difference between their two worst losses at the Dome this year. Tip: Bombers by 63 (but wouldn’t at all be surprised with a result under 5 goals) West Coast v Fremantle Saving the best for last! Form: Finding it vs Doing what needs to be done Head to head: Freo with the last 2, Eagles with the 3 before that and the Dockers with the 7 before that. Eagles’ favour: This could be the game they need at the perfect time. Have been finding a bit of touch of late, the Eagles now need to prove themselves on the top stage. They’ll be concerned that they’ve fallen short a couple of times in the big games this season and what better chance to flex their muscles than against the Dockers in the Derby? Waters out hurts but they could welcome back Shuey, Kerr, Selwood and Butler. Dockers’ favour: They’re in form and have the Pav. Freo have made Patersons a bit of a fortress this year (going 7 for 8 with a shock loss accounting for the non-matching numeral) and they have already beaten West Coast this year. They have only lost to teams above them on the ladder this season. Verdict: Who could know? Honestly, for every argument one can fathom for one side winning, another one jumps out pointing to the opposite. Pav’s return is massive for the Dockers - but McPharlin’s loss is arguably worse than Pav’s is good. Freo have regularly beaten sides below them this year and this is the exact kind of match the West Coast have been losing all season (Hawthorn, Essendon, Richmond, Carlton). Indeed, the Eagles haven’t beaten a single team above them on the ladder in 2013. Having said that, it’s the Derby. Form can get stuffed and West Coast are due to welcome back some very handy players. When it’s all said and done, this will be a very close game. Both teams will try and implement their press, here is where Freo have the distinct advantage. Minimizing the advantage, however, is the fact that Freo’s press often doesn’t lead to a great deal of scoring, meaning that West Coast may never be out of this game no matter how much the faulter. With Lecras, Cox, Kennedy and Darling looming - that could be a danger sign for Freo. Tip: Fremantle by 7 (but either side under 15 really) Match of the Round: Dockers/Eagles Upset of the Round: Eagles/Lions/Dogs Thrashing of the Round: Swans Closest Tip Last Week: Missed the Bombers by 4 * Note: I hate Shinboner spirit and every reference to it (including the above). Anyone notice, while we’re on the subject, how it completely avoided reference in the first half of season 2013?

I'll never understand why posters use these thread as a chance to have a crack at Joeboy. I think people should take it as its offered and use it as a platform to discuss player performance on the day - not the poster who offered his take.

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ROUND 15 A cracker of a round, let’s get our teeth into it! Carlton v Collingwood Form: Around the mark v Poor Head to Head: Split the last 4 Blues’ favour: They have been close all year. Never losing a match by more than 22 points, Carlton have pushed the teams above them and mostly beaten the teams below them. On their last are enough players to do damage if given enough time and space and they played very well against the Pies in round 2. A lot will be on Walker/Waite. Pies’ favour: They love being the underdogs. Potentially, there are some big ins for the Pies bolstering most areas of the field. Ball back is big, Reid coming in with Krakeour could be trouble for the Blues. Collingwood are only near their best when all 22 players buy in - and what better time than Friday night footy against their hated rivals? Verdict: Tough! Collingwood defenders will need to work as a unit. Essendon showed that if you play off your opponent and drop into space you can make the Blues mids pay - however given time to deliver, the Blues midfielders can hit targets with ease. You get the feeling that both teams will get a run-on at some point and it could be about who gets the better run towards the finish. Ball, Pendlebury and Swan will love the big stage and I feel this will be where they give their last yelp for they year. I’ve thought Carlton all week but now seem to think Collingwood will get the points as that’s what they do. Tip: Collingwood by 11 G.W.S. v Western Bulldogs Form: Trash and Trash Head to Head: Dogs with the only win. Giants’ favour: They’ll be up and about for this one. It could be their best chance for a win this year and they’ve won previously on this ground. Dogs’ favour: Whilst they’re terrible, we saw (yet again!) that their experienced players can turn a game so quickly. Boyd, Cooney, Griffen, Minson, Murphy and Gia form a strong nucleus and can turn a game quickly. Verdict: A strange match. People talk up the Dogs’ kids, and that’s fine, but the players that really kept them in it last week were Gia, Murphy, Griffen, Boyd, Cooney and Minson. When the older guys bow out there’s not a lot else to crow about - the Dogs look in a world of pain. It must also be said that the Giants, from round 6, have been disgustingly bad. They’ve gone 0-7 and their losses have been by 135, 83, 100, 94, 59, 75 and 86. An average of 90 points. Their kids aren’t clicking and poor Cameron is looking lonely and frustrated. I’d have to lean with the experience and hunger of the Dogs, but the Giants should definitely be up for this and could be hard to keep down if they get a run on. Tip: Dogs by 14 North Melbourne v Richmond Form: OK v Very Good Head to Head: North with 3 of the last 4 Roos’ favour: They’re so much better than they’ve been. Their season died when they rolled over against the Suns and it’ll be telling how they go about their business for the rest of the season. At their best they’d be a very good match for the Tigers - at their worst this year they’d be a good match for them for 3 and a half quarters. With Harvey, Petrie and Thomas running around they’re always capable of a dangerous outing and they love Etihad. Tigers’ favour: Impeccable form, the Tigers finally seem capable of winning the games they should win. In a way, they remind me of Melbourne 2006ish - not good enough against the top teams but decent enough against lower teams. The Tigers play with flair and aggression but also look very well organised at the back. Verdict: This will be close. This could be big. Richmond are in better form than North with more to play for, but I also get the feeling that this is the kind of game that North have been building to win all season. So close so many times, they’d love nothing more than to pull down a team gunning for the top-8. I feel the midfields are reasonably well matched - essentially blue collar players that niggle and nudge to get ahead with good attack on the footy. Both forwardlines are pretty evenly matched but Richmond probably have the advantage in the backline. I think this could be a shootout and should be great viewing. Overall, I think the Roos will finally get over the line. Tip: Roos by 7 Brisbane v Gold Coast Form: Strange v Fading Head to Head: Lions with the last 4 - with the last two under two goals. Lions’ favour: They should have too many experienced players for the Suns. In season 2013, Brisbane have never really hit their straps. In between great wins, they’ve shown some promise but have been largely a massive disappointment. They love this ground and it’ll be interesting to see how they approach this game as favourites. Suns’ favour: They’ve rolled Brisbane before at this ground and have been amazing to watch this year. They slingshot so well from half back and are so good around clearances. A lack of polish and defensive nous has let them down in patches and I fear may continue to do so here. Verdict: This promises to be a close game for the most but I think Brisbane will pull away towards the end similar to Adelaide’s showing last round. Tip: Lions by 27 Geelong v Hawthorn Form: Very good v Very good Head to Head: Cats with the last 10 - by 7, 2, 2, 31, 5, 19, 2, 9, 1 and 8. An average of 8.6 points. Cats’ favour: They’re playing Hawthorn. Hawks’ favour: The streak must end... surely? Verdict: What more can be said about this game than has already been said? Two great sides go at it once again on the big stage. Geelong are nothing short of incredible. They’re the best attacking team in the comp and showed last week they can be the best defensive side. Adaptable, skillful, creative and hard - they’re difficult to stop. Hawthorn probably haven’t been setting themselves for this game in my opinion. They’re not the sort of side to put a team above them and I think setting themselves particularly for Geelong would give them that idea. This should be a cracking contest and I find it hard to see either team winning by much more than the average margin. Tip: Hawks by 9 Adelaide v West Coast Form: Average v Average Head to head: Split the last 6 Crows’ favour: Got a big win on the weekend. It may have “only” been Gold Coast, but that’s the kind of game Adelaide have been dropping this year. It could be great for their confidence and they could revel in front of their hometown fans. We saw the influence they can have during Port’s performance. Eagles’ favour: Who knows? So much talent, so little cohesion. I feel they’ve tried to change their gamestyle this year and it simply hasn’t worked. I wonder if the players will be given a little more freedom this round. They have an array of goal kicking talent but simply give up too many scores. Also - who’d have thought that they’d be glad to get away from Patersons? I’m not sure what the opposite of a fortress is - but Patersons has become that for the boys in blue and yellow. Verdict: Yet another strange one. I think the Eagles will have too many scoring options and should be able to nullify the Crows. They lead Port at this ground by 41 earlier in the year and I think they’ll relish in the space provided. Tip: Eagles by 17 Melbourne v Sydney Form: Improving v Imposing Head to Head: The last 3 read 1-1-1. Swans with 5 before that. Dees’ favour: There’s nothing to lose, the players are finally playing with flair and freedom and it is our home ground. Jack Watts is finally looking the player many have hoped and guys like Jimmy T are looking comfortable in Senior footy. Expected to lose big this round, the Dees strangely have a similar team to the side that spanked and drew with Sydney only 2 years ago. Swans’ favour: A setback and a fadeout aside, the Swans have been in dominate form and should look forward to smashing an immensely inferior midfield. Kurt Tippett has looked immense and potentially has the ability to drag the Swans to back to back grand finals. Verdict: Melbourne should show more spark than they have for much of the year but will be found wanting through the midfield and K.T. will have a wealth of supply. Tip: Swans by 57 Fremantle v St Kilda Form: Great v Terrible Head to Head: Dockers won the last but Saints won the 8 before that. Dockers’ favour: They’re a much better side playing at home with everything still to play for. Saints’ favour: Only 8 rounds left. Verdict: Yuck. St Kilda could struggle to score. Literally. Fremantle showed how hard they can be to score against when they faced a much better team in North Melbourne a fortnight ago. Conceding only 9 scoring shots, they will be fuming over their performance against the Cats. Look for Freo to do a job. Tip: Dockers by 73 Essendon v Port Adelaide Form: Against the odds v Ditto Head to Head: Bombers with the last 3, Port with the previous 6 Bombers’ favour: They continue to play tough, consistent, backs against the wall footy. I suppose some of the players figure this could be their last few weeks of footy and they play with the arrogance of what you’d expect an Essendon team to do when they want to tell the rest of the world to stick it. Jobe is immense and he’s carrying the rest of the team with him. Power’s favour: They don’t mind playing the Bombers and they’re pretty good at Etihad - regularly putting in plucky performances against superior teams at the venue. Similar to Essendon, they’re playing tough, contested footy and are much better for the run on. Verdict: Essendon should be too big and too strong for the Power. It won’t be a blow out but I think the Bombers will have their number for most of the afternoon. Tip: Essendon by 26 Match of the Round: How could you choose?!? Carlton Collingwood is always huge - especially at 8th v 9th. Richmond North show two equally matched sides going toe to toe. A Queensland derby. 16th v 18th playing for pride. 10th vs 11th fighting for the chance to keep their seasons alive. 3rd against 7th. Oh yeah - and 1st against 2nd!!! Upset of the Round: As above! Of the 9 matches, the only two certainties I can see are Sydney and Freo. Immense. Thrashing of the Round: Freo v St Kilda

Dees win by 32. 8 single goal kickers.

Chelsea Randall is tearing it apart. Our girl Jasmine Garner has been very lively and just kicked her first goal! Go Dees! Dees by 31 at the moment.

Wow! What a day! Sharapova out. FEDERER out!!! 7 withdrawals including big Jo and Azarenka. Opens the door for Murray and probably cements it for Serena.

Fixed.

Hi all, I've PM'd all the relevant people (I believe) about contact from the club. Please let me know if you didn't get a PM but should've. At the risk of revealing myself to be an idiot - I can't figure how (or if) you send multiple PMs to people in the one go.