Mazer Rackham

1 hour ago, Diamond_Jim said:

Looks like the Gabba redevelopment is dead in its present form. (Costs have escalated from the original estimate of $1 billion to 2.7 billion and rising)

How can ANYTHING cost $2.7 bil?

Someone somewhere in construction is making an absolute killing, while governments and councils are busy trying to distinguish their elbows from their [censored].

The Hoddle Street upgrade a few years back was delayed and its budget blew out by some $60 mil (and this was not the only delay or blowout) because someone somewhere had underestimated the amount of crushed rock required. So they had to get in an extra $60 mil worth of crushed rock.

SIXTY MILLION

You could build a row of luxury houses along that same length of Hoddle Street for $60 mil.

But they needed $60 mil of crushed rock.

SIXTY MILLION

It's like developers watched "Utopia" and took notes, while govt people watched it and said "gee, maybe we need MORE sensitivity training!"

On 20/01/2024 at 20:44, Kick_It_To_Pickett said:

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/collingwood-magpies/hasnt-gone-down-well-hidden-issue-in-magpies-training-video-sparks-controversy/news-story/6d2558c331d399203a31258961769eb7?fbclid=IwAR0xFpc4YZ7GYgJTqpMGd1bfuVnKtfMD7GDid1GlaD5AltXWUsYW9K5ZcNo_aem_AVfKNo2ursbmqIShFp4Jr71P6SKOXnhoAPTpz31kSEbuQu05N1OQ98jbQUu85BFhzIU
 

Good to see the Pies being called out for siphoning taxpayer money for women’s sport

Well well well what a surprise this is.

What a shell game, all this siphoning of money for women's teams/junior teams/dog walkers/locals who want electric BBQs, etc. When the whole time it's going to facilities for the men's team.

Dogs, Blues, Pies ... most Vic clubs seem adept at playing the game and pretending to tick all the right boxes. Apart from the Cats who don't need to do a thing except point out what a marginal seat they're in. And of course the Might Demons who don't even seem to realise there's a game involved and play a straight bat as if the whole thing is awarded on merit.

"What ... us? Oh no! We want the money ... I mean, the community wants the money for better facilities for the womens' teams ... and junior soccer teams ... and we'll plant a few trees to save the planet while we're at it ... have an off leash area to placate, I mean, enhance the experience for local residents. Us? Why, it never crossed our minds! But now that you mention it, an extra oval the same size as the MCG might be of use to us ... plus a plunge pool, hypoxic tent. grandstand, social club (with bar) ... gee, these things the community are crying out for ... well, we might be able to use them too ...." [*back at the club*] "Yeah, I snowed 'em pretty good. They bought the lot. Sit back and wait for the cheque."

So an amateur soccer club wants to play games at the race track? Should be plenty of land to go around. I can't see any proposal getting off the ground without support for local sport.

14 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

 

Well I can’t just give it up easily now can I?

A group of famous overweight pelicans have had a good Huntin’ and might make-a-bee line for their piece of the heartland to host some games 

Seagulls? Albatrosses?

Huntingdale?

Maccabee?

In any match that year, if at quarter time the score wasn't something like 8 goals to 1 at quarter time (for the oppo, obvs), you'd say to yourself "we might have a chance to lose by less than 10 goals. We're in this!"

MFC: "we'd like to develop Gosch's as a state-of-the-art training fac--"
Minister: "public land, cutting down trees, limited use, etc etc etc, don't call us, well call you"

CFC: "got an idea for something on Gosch's"
Minister: "OMG Collingwood just called me, get my signature stamp ready"

5 hours ago, Red and Bluebeard said:

I hear Bob Dylan is in favour of it too

"How many years must the Dees supporters wait, before they can have a home ground?

The answer my friend, is blowin' in the wind, ..."

But wait! "Cos the times, they are a-changin' ..."

leave your paddock field behind, the horse track calls for you ♪
forget the far flung fields, they will not follow you
the black and whites who recently were crowned
will soon be training on your cricket ground ♫
strike another match, go start anew
coz it's all over now, red and blue

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13 minutes ago, Redleg said:

We can only imagine, as John Lennon said.

Hmmm yes, but Lennon also said that the north side of his town faced east and the east was facing south. Also that he was born in a crossfire hurricane. Also that Mrs Brown has got a lovely daughter. Not the most reliable witness!

14 hours ago, bluey said:

5 years is a long time in MFC time, and here we are, inserting ourselves back into a gambling venue, and the heinous business of betting on animals.

No need to jump to conclusions. We may be strategically partnering with the dog food and glue industries.

15 hours ago, fr_ap said:

I'm not sure of the appeal/obssession with Port Melbourne, which in some parts is basically inaccessible by public transport.

Port Melbourne is a bastard to get to, by any means, from anywhere.

1 hour ago, Demonsone said:

Glen Eire council are now saying they haven’t been consulted & are warning that any plans needs to include local residential use.. could another local gvt shaft the MFC?

1 hour ago, beelzebub said:

The area will require some recreational facilities and that will definitely suit the locals....

Shouldn't be too hard to orchestrate ... dog walking tracks or off-leash areas, a few BBQs, new soccer grounds for local clubs ... TICK

So Maynard couldn't help it. IT'S NOT HIS FAULT!

3 hours ago, Brownie said:

"All reasonable steps" - christ on a bike

They could make it easy and just say "the head is sacrosanct", but I think that may have been tried and somehow found wanting (although not sure how).

1 hour ago, Wrecker46 said:

If the AFL were serious

I think we already have the answer to that

5 hours ago, La Dee-vina Comedia said:

This is a good post. It raises the question as to whether the "all reasonable steps" words take effect after the smotherer is airborne or in making the decision in the first place to leave the ground. It needs to be both, not just after the smotherer has left the ground or George's prophesy will come true.

The meaning of "all reasonable steps" will depend on whether the player is from a big club, and/or is a star player,  and/or is a "good bloke who wouldn't have meant that".

More long winded court cases coming up, involving lawyers hijacking a sporting tribunal and turning it into a criminal trial, quibbling over the meaning of "all", "reasonable" and "steps", until the tribunal members' heads are spinning and they don't know where they are or time it is, or indeed their own names.

3 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

seems like he's hardley reidy for afl footy at this stage

IS THIS SOME KIND OF JOKE????

37 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Based on my, admittedly infrequent listening to SEN, I would the rate the ads as more entertaining and informative than the commentators/broadcasters.

Hang on. They can talk about any subject under the sun.

"The cricket world cup is on. How many AFL players have played cricket? Give us a call, the lines are open."

"How about those Matildas? We'll talk about the AFL draft right after this short break."

"Coaching drama at Melbourne City. What are some of the biggest coaching dramas in the AFL? Give us a call, the lines are open."

"Spring carnival comes to a close. We'll discuss Carlton's chances next season right after this short break."

As long as I get my Bertocchi ham before the doors are closed for the last time ...

10 hours ago, picket fence said:

Not only rigged.... totally Corrupt!🤮

Yes, not so much rigged, as corrupt.

I mean, it is rigged. When did we last play WCE twice in a year? When did we last play them not in Perth?

How many times in the last 20 years have EFC, CFC, RFC played Geelong in Geelong?

Follow the money. I understand the AFL has to run at a profit in the interests of stewardship of the game. Ask grass roots footy how well that's going for them.

As for corruption, I take it as meaning "polluted, corroded, impure" rather than "brown paper bags under the table". Only have to look at the recent Cripps & Maynard tribunal farces for examples. Not to mention the calculated looking the other way in the EFC drugs, sorry, supplements scandal, sorry, saga. The complete arbitrariness on any and every issue. The list goes on and on.

If it wasn't for my deep seated but irrational love for the mighty MFC I don't think I would give any attention to the AFL. This last season I watched more NRL than AFL!

28 minutes ago, Deebauched said:

Check out the last 2 minutes of the Adelaide Crows v Fitzroy game back around 1991. Probably the most  incompetent bias umpiring in the history of aussie rules.

Still remember that. The "affirmation of noise" is very real.

The "funny" (or disturbing) part of that Crows game is that every round of footy these days brings howlers every bit as bad.

This is like trying to compile a list of Bucks Fizz's greatest hits. They had hits?

There are "best" umpires?

As long as the entire umps department is compromised by the fickleness and arbitrariness of their bosses ... as long as they are encouraged to umpire by this week's rule-du-jour [*] ... as long as they are confronted with a poorly-worded rule book ... as long as there are rules that require "interpretation" (unique amongst sports) ... as long as they remain amateur ... as long as they do not form "squads" that always umpire together and learn each others' style and idiosyncracies ... then the umps' quest for excellence will be akin to wading upstream against a flash flood of incompetence.

2 hours ago, dpositive said:

i have said for many years that MFC should invite the umpires down to our training session to discuss what we are doing wrong in our tackling or ball handling.

Sounds great until tested in the heat of battle on game day. See 3rd para above. We are probably doing nothing wrong with our tackling or ball handling.

[*] I am aware of the contradiction in terms.

They won us a flag, gave Daisy a fitting send-off, won us a bunch of supporters and and helped win the McClelland, so all upside. Go girls!

17 minutes ago, WalkingCivilWar said:

Why a koala for the bears? 🤔 

It was important to them as a club at that time to ensure the worse possible outcome for every issue, whether big or small. And by God, they succeeded at that, at least.

29 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

We see countless times each week where a player is tackled and one arm is pinned but the arm holding the ball is free. The player holds on for dear life and makes no attempt to dispose because he knows that an incorrect disposal will give a free away or the ball will spill to an opponent.

Players (like ANB) are coached to bring the ball to ground and create a stoppage. Players are holding on to the ball for too long and the tackler has no choice in most cases other than to bring the player to ground or risk them getting their arms free and dishing the ball off. 

IMO a player who makes no attempt to dispose of the ball when tackled should be penalised, regardless of whether he has an arm pinned etc This actually is the rule currently but not enforced. The only exception should be when the player has both arms pinned and can't release the ball.

And while we are at it, you wont convince me otherwise that all of these issues stem from the increase in interchange back in Kevin Bartlett's day.

Players today can run for 4 quarters at full tilt (with lots of interchanges). Makes for bigger, harder collisions, more congestion and more of the ball pinging from end to end. A lot less one on one contested footy and more rolling mauls. All for TV

 

Wow, couldn't have said it better myself. This is what the AFL has reaped from their sowing of unrestricted interchange.

The other reaping we're in the middle of witnessing is the slow death of ruckwork. All because of the AFL's insistence on perfect bounces. They don't need to be perfect! The ruckmen don't need to be opposite each other! In olden times the umps bounced the ball all day, all over the ground, on mudpatches and bowling greens alike, and the ruckmen used their skill to anticipate and manouvre this crazy oval ball. But some coaches said it could affect the outcome of a grand final. Oh. Okay. The coaches, final arbiter of all things, have spoken. Newsflash! It already has affected a grand final. 2010, Steve Milne, crazy bounce, and no one had kittens. It was all accepted as part of the game. The AFL is killing ruckwork in the name of a perfection that doesn't and can't exist.