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You all need to focus less on his feet being taken or Moore on the ground and more on his raised elbow. That's all this is

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Showed more than many others last night. He's been treated poorly by both coaching staff and fans. Should have played the entire 2nd half of the year with our midfield out. He was not the only player to turn it over kicking to Petty, who consistently runs to the wrong places and is continually out of sync with the rest of the team. Being able to take a contested mark does not make you a forward. Everywhere you look this coaching staff has players out of position, square peg round hole stuff. Totally Maddening

Not sure what's happened , but his back half of the season has been very poor - he's looked very low on confidence, disinterested in anything physical and just completely lacking verve and desire. I have zero Intel, but strongly suspect something happened in his personal life that's thrown him for six. Partner, family, dog - reckon something's happened. Hasn't looked himself for 3 months

You said it. Thankyou. The happy clappers can get [censored]. We are consistently bullied by this club and show nothing.

He's been given a bigger midfield shot than Laurie. Undeservedly. If you genuinely think McVee shows promise as a mid, I'm not going to bother arguing with you.

If we can't find some genuine mids, we're bottom 4. Worst midfield in the AFL by a mile right now.

Collingwood played tonight with zero big forward. Repeat....ZERO. Will Hoskin Elliott was their big forward. That's what a coaching staff with balls and ingenuity do. Persisting with Petty to the detriment of his development and the teams development for a total output of 8 goals or something for the year is proof that our stubborn, idiotic coaching staff are going nowhere in the modern game. He should have spent the entire season back, learning from May before he finishes up. Tomlinson basically played for the opposition tonight and Hore not much better. I just can't...seriously. Bailey Laurie is a reasonably high pick who's had 3 years of vfl midfield invested in him. Topped all the running pre season. With our midfield decimated, he doesn't get a shot. Instead we throw our brilliant, 1v1 winning, tall/small skinny damaging half back into a role that anyone who actually understands footy can tell he has no scope for. So McVee gets the benefit of learning midfield on the job, while Laurie does not. Yeah Laurie might not be great....but he really hasn't had a shot. Certainly not the shot that McVee has had the last 3/4 games putting up shameful midfield numbers and showing he has no idea how to operate in congestion or even off balance. The place is run by [censored]. Genuinely. They've no idea.

It's both mate

Looks like a suspension to me. 3-4.

100%. Yet when I said this at the start of the year I was shouted down.

Pathetic spineless team. No heart, very little passion and barely any teamwork. Just about the whole lot of them outside of Turner. Extremely disappointed in Viney. I've been saying since it was first flagged on this site that McVee is not a midfielder. It's very easy to understand why. Honestly some of our coaching department have no more of a clue than the fools on here that have been asking for it. If anyone should be getting trialled through the midfield it should be Woewoedin. It honestly looked like a VFL vs an AFL side the entire night. One team had skill and understands how to kick to advantage, the other did not and goes out of its way to make scoring more difficult. Terrible way to end a terrible year.

Couldn't agree more. Makes me sick as well.

Very nice win, but god knows what was going on with GC. They absolutely torched the footy all day, even in space, and could barely cover the ground. Very odd considering it was their weather. Liked Kolt's 2nd half, and probably the best game I've seen JV7 play. Langdon should never have cut his hair. Obvious to say that Turner has the makings of a very good player - has more X factor than JVR whilst obviously being less reliable. He has an interesting and slightly unusual athletic profile. No Trac up there is very odd considering May is the only other listed player who didn't go...and has a heavily pregnant partner. Even Spargo went up on crutches. What's Trac's excuse? Stinks to high heaven Imo. Prepare yourselves.

Anyone still think McVee is a mid? If you want to nullify his strengths, It's the perfect position for him. They're going to ruin a great slingshot HBF

Those saying Collingwood have no leverage, or that Trac is contracted haven't been paying attention for some time now. It. Does. Not. Matter. If he says that's where he wants to go, they will move heaven and earth to get him, including catapulting their salary cap if need be, and the media will pressure us to accept their best offer by saying that we shouldn't be holding a club champion against their will. ANB signed for 3 years last year. Houston is contracted. Contracts are not a barrier to any player leaving. As for "what has happened to this club since 2021?" - I and many others on here tried telling you. I wrote a widely smashed thread called 'its the culture' at the end of 22. My observations were pretty surface-level in hindsight but I always felt they were early symptoms of something changing and bubbling. We've shown flashes on and off of something returning, but it's never felt or looked the same since mid-22. At the start of this year I specifically said we were a petracca injury away from bottom 6. So many thought it was a ridiculous idea, failing to see that Laurie, Woey and Tholstrup is not the midfield depth of a top 4 or 8 side. The types of characters we've brought in through trade since 21, the lack of integrity at selection, the falling standards on and off field, the talent we've been unable to hold onto, the lack of our brilliant '21 team defense, the loss of all functional depth, the re-emergence of selfish patterns of play, ageing of our best players and most tellingly, the absolute arrogance of management declaring nothing was wrong in the face of irrefutable evidence. It's all pointed in a certain direction for a reasonable period of time. I swear I don't know how so many can devote so much to something and fail to see the patterns emerging. You can all see within 5 minutes of play starting how the team has rocked up. Hell, half of us know the body language of the warm up we follow this team so closely. So why are you so surprised?

Will end up at Collingwood. No question in my mind.

Anyone care to post the Pete Ryan article? Paywall

Like many I've found this upsetting. One of my favourite players, effort attitude and commitment could never be questioned, which is more than you can say for most.

Imo - Clarry has already checked out. If he can get his desperation & commitment back - then of course none of us would ever want him to leave. But if he doesn't - you'd still want to keep him around? If you've managed large teams you'd be aware of the importance of upholding and demonstrating high standards - and how small cracks spread and undermine collective effort. It's not as black and white as you make it - there are versions of Clarry like there are versions of each of us. The clarry that won 4*bnfs is welcome at any time. The current version - we would be best to move on from.

For those asking for Pert and Roffey to face the press, save your breath. The place could be in voluntary liquidation and they'd tell us the club has never been financially stronger. And don't blame Christian. Blame Tim Lamb and Alan Richardson. Tbh, we have an emerging stink about us that echo's what Richo presided over at St Kilda.

Bang It is something we do so poorly

I'm not basing it on his output as a mid last night. I'm basing it on my assessment of him as a player and I've been saying this ever since people started mentioning his name for midfield Am allowed to have long held opinions champ. Jog on

McVee - not a mid Does not have the frame or ability in heavy congestion. He's a ripping 1v1, aerial and slingshot player. His home is half back.