Chris

There in lies the reason to me. In Sydney the weather is warmer, as it is in Perth so you don't have to wear scarves. In Melbourne the scarf is part of the institution that is the AFL, mainly due to the fact it is cold and you wear them for much of the season. I do understand your point with the hats, but I don't wear hats unless it is very cold and then it is a beenie. I would much prefer the scarf, the best thing they could do is mix up the design from year to year a bit more.

Gawn in for sure. Watts probably. Daisy a must. Chunck and Viney have to stay, probably Hogan too so that makes the banner Chunck, Viney, Daisy, Gawn, Hogan, Watts. I would love to see Nev up there too as I am a big fan but I also understand most on here would have him below the 6 I listed. EDIT: Just realised there are only 5 spots on there this year. Watts and hogan a toss of the coin!

Wasn't panadol, it was apparently Nurofen and her coach gave it to her. Many pain killers and cold meds used to, and many still do, contain psuedoephedrine which is a banned substance. Just goes to show why it is so important for athletes to check everything they take and don't trust anyone but ASADA with what is banned and what is not. Just goes to show the whole defense the players went with of 'but the people we trusted said it was fine'. Does not cut it by a mile, even though very few, if any, in AFL land actually get this yet!

I have 2 issues with the players. 1: They have not been contrite in any way and still harp on about being innocent and hard done by, which come from the club mainly. They should just take the punishment, come back and do their job. They have that right and although I would never really respect them they have the right to return to their life. 2: (which is actually aimed at the media) The return of the players should not be celebrated in any way shape or fashion. The whole come back story the EFC are running is disgusting. The players should have simply returned and got on with things. The AFL should have shut down any thought of celebrations or fan fair as it is entirely inappropriate to celebrate the return of a cheat, what sort of message does that send! As we all know the AFL are inept and entirely incompetent and bound to the short term dollar, they have no sense of what is best for the game long term!

What's the bet GWS will accept sanctions some time in the not too distant future, after tonight of course!

And yet none of them were sacked or reprimanded by the club for breaking said protocol! We have another entrant in the most deluded or dysfunctional club race. We used to be leading by the straight but now we are miles behind. EFC are about a lap ahead of Richmond with GWS coming fast!

Maybe the trigger is more than 50. who knows really.

His contract had an auto trigger for a fourth year if he played enough games. He can no longer reach that trigger as he didn't play enough last year. He is claiming the club held him back on purpose so he couldn't reach the trigger this year. He says he felt fine but the docs wouldn't let him play. Don't really care what it costs, he now must be gone as his claims are a nonsense.

I got brave and looked it up. To summarise in genteel words it is to control a males arm by holding and moving the forearm while they have a grip on their most private of areas.

He has a lifetime ban from all WADA sports, not just the AFL.

Ben has released a statement saying ASADA will not take any further action as (and I am paraphrasing) there was no evidence he took, or intended to take PED'S and as such the ban would do. Poor form to me as he either broke an anti doping rule, in which case he should be banned and ASADA should lead that through the right channels, or he didn't break the rules and he should face no ban. Once again the AFL is trying to be half pregnant.

The tribunal essentially have asked for a medical certificate and without that the trial doesn't go ahead.

Tracey Holmes, hahahahahahahahahhaha

It actually isn't about the EFC boys, he conveniently wasn't found guilty by the AFL for any charge to do with them at all. What he was found guilty of, and what he is appealing, is a bunch of things form other places.

How is this for a conspiracy theory, the club purposely made the jumper look like a pile of puss in order to get the fans to revolt, that way they have clear evidence of the fans hatred of the AFL policy with which to approach the AFL and tell them to change it. We all know how much Dill hates annoying fans and making decisions through fan polls, there are stupider ways of making him see sense.

Is a very funny choice of words. Surely even Dill isn't silly enough to not have an agreement such as this in writing! Than again he just may be.

I may be wrong but I don't think Dank was found guilty with anything to do with TB4 so I am not sure it would be in any way admissible to talk about it as it is irrelevant to this case. He may be using this expert to talk about the substances he was found guilty of trafficking etc.

Thanks. Interesting it still isn't quoted, means nothing but normally you would directly quote them. Am disappointed ASADA let this not be a doping violation, unless they did look into it and their case didn't stand up. Who knows, would love to hear from Ben. By the way the ' around my name aren't needed, it is actually my name.

He didn't turn up to his case the other week as well. I think it was a defamation case. He lost without a hearing and had to pay all legal fees.

Do you have a link to this? I have read Robbo saying it and a couple of others but it is never attributed to anyone. If true then I would be disappointed in ASADA unless they explained why, and even then I still may be.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-08/asada-waits-on-afl-regarding-whitfield-case From within linked article. "Now, later on Tuesday, the anti-doping watchdog told AFL.com.au that it's League headquarters holding things up. "On 31 October 2016, ASADA asked the AFL for its full investigation file, which we are still awaiting," an ASADA spokesperson told AFL.com.au. "Because the potential consequences for individuals are so serious, it is important that ASADA considers all relevant material before any decision is made about whether to take forward possible anti-doping rule violations. "In this case, as the information was collected as a part of an AFL investigation, due diligence requires ASADA to assess all evidence collected in its entirety." That was written on the 8th of November. Whitfeild was banned on the 15th or so. Big call for ASADA to go from not having the info to signing off on bans in a week!

I disagree they should work with the club, the club is the one with the greatest vested interest. The AFL should act as the leader of the league and deal with ASADA and tell the clubs what is required.

ASADA's role is pretty clear, they come in whenever there is a breach, or suspected breach of the anti-doping code. What should happen, but due to the idiots running the sport doesn't, is that the AFL should simply hand over what they know to ASADA and help ASADA wherever requested. ASADA then investigate and determine if a breach has occurred and then the defined process is followed, as it was with the EFC boys. What the AFL seem to think happens is they give ASADA some of the info, then blame ASADA for delays, then ban people for things other than anti-doping in order to try and save face. In terms of the Whitfield case, yes it is a potential anti-doping violation and as such should be handled by ASADA. The last comment I saw from ASADA was a week or so back when they said they were yet to receive all the information they requested from the AFL. They stated that until they had this information and time to work through it that they would not be able to make a determination in this case (sounds fair enough). The AFL have since banned Whitfield and the others on charges that are not anti-doping related (just like punishing the dons for non anti doping things to try and get ASADA of their case). Some have reported ASADA agreed to the bans but one of them was Robbo so I give that little weight, others have been far more on the fence in terms of ASADA's involvement. It was reported that Whitfield and the others would only agree once ASADA said they wouldn't pursue it further, again who knows how true this is, and even if ASADA do agree to that there is nothing stopping WADA coming in over the top of them all at some point. I would give it until either ASADA say they have agreed to this, or we are another few months down the track before I would be confident of what ASADA have or have not done in this case.

My f#ing phone keeps doing that. I don't even know who Susan is!

If ASADA did agree to this I would be scratching my head too. I am not sure they have as no official statement has been seen mentioning them involved in the 6 months, the onlt mention is from some Journos while others said otherwise. Along with AFL banning them for nothing a they aren't actually charged with anything really, I am always very sus on AFL statements like this as they like to push others into their mold. edit: removed an email address Mt evil phone put in there.