ManDee

Why do posters ask for a thread to end? If you don't like it don't read it. Threads should be allowed to go until they die naturally. If threads are derailed those posts could be removed, why lose the thread. Read the title, "The Bombers Doping Saga - The Fat Lady Sings" Last time I looked the Bombers were a football side in the AFL and 34 players from that side were found guilty of doping offences. Wish as we may that the fat lady starts to sing and then another boil bursts forth more scurrilous information, sorry DMMA long may this thread live, don't like it, move on.

Billy, there you go throwing a chip at a flock of seagulls. Stand back!

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From :- The Age http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/jake-carlisle-yet-to-lodge-compensation-claim-with-essendon-bombers-20170301-guoi3n.html "Essendon remain mystified as to why they cannot achieve closure with controversial former Bomber Jake Carlisle, who has not yet lodged a compensation claim against the club. "...." But they are understood to have become increasingly frustrated with Carlisle's advisers as they seek to move forward in 2017 and out of the shadow of the drug scandal that has haunted the club for four years. "...."Carlisle's manager Anthony McConville was not available for comment regarding the state of Carlisle's claim. The 25-year-old is being represented by former AFL Coaches Association lawyer Chris Pollard. While it was revealed almost 12 months ago that Carlisle's legal team had linked his 2015 illicit drug use with the trauma of his final three years at Essendon no claim has yet been put to the club." My guess is that there is no financial reason to settle early, and holding out will probably get him a better payout. He may also be waiting on medical tests on himself or & children.

Who found the 34 players guilty of drug cheating? Was it the AFL? Could the AFL CEO guarantee no penalties? Could the AFL overrule any penalty applied by CAS? This shows how ill informed the EFC were about ASADA and anti doping rules. They should have known that AFL football was in the bailiwick of ASADA and that ASADA could act independently of the AFL and that the AFL held no sway over ASADA -WADA. They should have known that the world governing anti doping body had the power to get them if they breached the rules. To complain about the AFL breaking their word is more obfuscation from the EFC. The AFL's word is irrelevant as they did not find EFC guilty of drug cheating. No claim is made that they did not cheat. No claim is made that they were innocent. The only conclusion I draw from this is they knew they were guilty but thought the AFL would not ban their players. That is what happened. How with any integrity can they complain about the AFL when the AFL had no say in the outcome? How is it that all records are lost except a recording of a conversation about another conversation, at best hearsay, Little may have been lying to bolster the troops. More smoke from the EFC and its sycophants.

The Germans always had the best suits, and headwear. I have been to Boss's online shop and it would appear that the SS line is discontinued, perhaps to make way for their line of Donald Trump suits.

Me thinks OD is into doffing not tipping.

Fair swap

We traded pick 2 for Tyson and another pick + steak knives each way. We did not trade Kelly for Tyson & Salem in the 2013 draft. The comparison is moot, we may have picked Scharenberg & Freeman a massive loss or we may have picked Bontompelli & Cripps massive win. We will never know. I think both clubs would be happy, particularly not picking Scharenberg, Freeman or Aish.

Beeb I am a pragmatist. My answer was, 'It has not happened but Jobe Watson is reported to have returned his ill gotten Brownlow.'

I had a trivia question on the weekend. Name the AFL player that returned their Brownlow? I answered that it has not happened, he still has it. People don't get it, The cheat should be banned from the AFL until he returns his ill gotten gains. He is a drug cheat not a hero.

Wrecker I understand that you said you will not respond, but how do you account for the drugs that Hird took whilst coaching that were illegal for athletes, one even led to him suffering priapism for an extended period? He was experimenting with drugs whilst coaching and probably had been since Charters was his "personal coach" in his playing days. He was no pawn, he was the instigator.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news LG but there is no Easter Bunny and no Santa Claus and Hird new.

Beeb, we need to be sensitive to mental illness issues and depression that afflict so many. The rub off on others is a concern and should be dealt with appropriately. Personally I am happy to take off the gloves regarding other aspects of Hird's public life. I too, feel sorry for his kids.

Grape, we still watch documentaries about the Nazi's so I suspect at least another 50 years of this thread. So if we want to discuss these issues why not let us use this site? So long as we avoid certain issues let us have our fun. Jobe is a disgrace for not handing the medal back, we may have to add thief to our vitriol about him.

I think we should give James Hird a break for the time being. I have no time for him and consider him a liar and a cheat, but at this time we should talk about other issues. If his family keep breaking their please leave us alone request then we can reopen the flood gates.

The fat lady will never sing. This saga will never end.

The one whose pants fell down, a lot?

Des Tuddenham

Pass

So Dank didn't turn up to his own appeal, who would have guessed? What a total FWit. No more sports nights or media coverage, ignore him.

OK Choke don't hold back, what do you really think?

Didn't Noddy feel a little [censored]? Edit:-That auto censor goes too far. It means odd, can I say that?

It seems peaceful around here. Stuie is MIA, Ethan seems to be on holiday, I miss footy.