mo64

He became part of MFC folklore with his "Don't forget the Aeroguard Mr. Walker". Based on his job title, you couldn't say he's earnt his pay over the past couple of years. May be the first casualty of the Football Department review.

Unless Goodwin isn't part of the List Management Committee, Pert didn't go behind the back of the Football Department.

There are literally hundreds of ways a story like this can get out. I found out a few days before the Grand Final that Luke Parker had committed to joining the Roos. My source was a mate who's golfing buddy was a junior coach of Parker. Parker is close friends with his son. My mate has never met Parker or had anything to do with the Swans or Roos, but that's how easy it is for football stories to get out. So people pointing the finger at the club or Pert for leaking, are naive to the realties of football clubs.

You should seek counselling for listening to a Sam McClure podcast. 😁

I'd rather be told the reasons for putting Oliver on the trade table, than having the whole football world constantly speculating. And it definitely makes the trade more palatable to accept.

This. If Oliver has transgressed again as being reported, that's on the player first, then the Football Dept. If the CEO and the Board believe that there are cultural problems within the playing group, and the Football Dept. won't act upon them, then the CEO and Board have no other option. And it's little wonder that Goodwin and the Football Dept want to keep Oliver. After recent failed seasons, their jobs are on the line.

It may be a blessing in disguise. Our notable trades over the past 3 years have been busts. It's all part of a cunning plan, lol.

I'm sure some Demonlanders will blame Pert. With Peatling out of the equation, let's hope we keep all our current and future 1st and 2nd round draft picks, and have a mini rebuild.

Spargo averages 11 possessions, 2 tackles and .64 goals a game over his 98 game career. Spargo is none of the things you describe above.

Maybe it's due to the Football Department being under review. And it wouldn't surprise me, given our track record in trades over the past 3 years, that Pert has no confidence in the decision making of Lamb, Richo and Goodwin. It could be a precursor to Richo and Lamb getting the flick based on the review.

Spargo is a hack, and was playing for Casey last year. If he wasn't contracted, he'd be delisted. I haven't given up on McAdam. At least Owies can impact the scoreboard.

Correct. I'm not a Pert fan, but it's delusional to think that he is acting independently of the Football Department. The only reason we would be shopping Oliver around is that his off field issues are similar to that of Jesse Hogan. But any club that wants him needs to sell the farm to get him, which is appropriate given that the club is Geelong. San De Konning wasn't best 23 in their finals team, so he would be merely steak knives to any deal. Can't see what they have to offer that would satisfy us.

If we trade Oliver, then pursuing Houston is pointless. Without Oliver, we would need a mini rebuild with high end young talent.

I bet he didn't write it before the GF. If the Lions lost, Fagan would have come under the same scrutiny. It's easy after the event.

Other clubs would see Oliver's market value at it's lowest right now. They'd be mad not to ask. Conversely, we'd be mad to entertain any offers, unless there are other factors at play, as was the case with Jesse Hogan.

The game has changed from 2005. There were unlimited interchange rotations back then, so it wasn't imperative for a 2nd ruck to have some credentials as a forward. Plus Jason Ball started his career as a key forward at the WCE. He kicked 48 goals in a season at WCE. Both Ball and Jolly could take contested marks. Grundy can't. The Grundy experiment was bound to fail.

I can't imagine it's like doing a 4 year tertiary degree. It's probably an online course outlining the protocols of managing people rather than a knowledge of football tactics.

It's was stupidity, not a gamble. Why would anyone think that after 10 years in the AFL system, that Grundy would be capable of taking contested marks as a resting forward? The same applies to Max as a forward.

Jordon hasn't been a high possession player at the Swans all year. That's not his role. It was the Swans prime movers that let them down.

Tim Lamb will work his magic by turning pick 37 into pick 34, by giving up pick 25.

This Bukkake bloke would fit in well at the Dees. We've got plenty of blokes who spray it everywhere.

I'm hearing that Caleb Daniel is about to announce his retirement, and will take on the job.

Good player at the Dogs, waste of space at the Dees. Happy we've made another list spot available.

Geelong wanted Stengle out. Really? We wanted Grundy out due to our own incompetence. Port wanted Teakle out because they recruited a better player in Sweet, and had Soldo and Vinsentini as backup. Geelong acquired a 24yo Bowes plus gained a draft pick. Bowes had come off a long term injury in 2022. We acquired 27yos Hunter and Billings, who had spent time in the VFL due to poor form. Surely you can see the difference. And you tried to argue that Hayden McLean wouldn't be a good fit for us as a forward/ruck when we acquired Grundy. How's that looking now?

You are kidding yourself if you believe that the addition of Grundy, Hunter, Schache, Billings, Fullarton, McAdam and Hore hasn't been a massive failure. Not one established themselves in the team. No other club has had a poorer track record than us on this front in recent years. And nobody is complaining about lower draft picks being a failure, because we haven't had any recently.