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We've already done it with Jesse Hogan. Worked out well for us because we ended up with May. Didn't work out well for Freo because obviously the issues that he had with us didn't disappear. He only turned things around at GWS.

Goodwin may not have been happy with the prospect of losing Oliver, but of course he knew that we put him on the trade table.

If you are referring to Oliver, he's 27 for christ's sake.

No offence Tom, but I hope you don't play a game for the Dees, because that would mean that Max is out injured. Aside from that, I wish you a long and prosperous career at the club.

Great summation. If we were not prepared to trade Oliver at any cost, then we should have set a price when we put him on the market. If we stipulated what the bare minimum compo would be, and there was no interest, then things could have been nipped in the bud before Oliver met with the Cats. With the way things have transpired, Oliver's position at the club was untenable only at the right price. Crazy!!!!

He'll be lucky to be in a job after the Football Dept review.

I'm sure the Cats' broom is large enough to sweep things under the rug, and the Geelong Advertiser isn't going to lag on one of their boys.

Just tell him that the drinks are free, and he wouldn't miss it for the world.

There are recalcitrants who's off-field antics brought shame on themselves, but didn't impact their teammates. Stengle and DeGoey come to mind. But from what we are hearing, Oliver's actions has impacted the playing group. And the standards set for Oliver isn't the same as the rest of the team. You can't have that in a club.

Goody's "allies" moving on is a good thing in my opinion. We need fresh faces who will challenge Goodwin and the Football Department. And who knows whether Plunkett and Stafford left on their own accord, or whether they were given the tap on the shoulder, and resigned to save face.

They did give us Nigel Kol. Maybe they'll include his twin brother Michael as part of the trade.

He became part of MFC folklore with his "Don't forget the Aeroguard Mr. Walker". Based on his job title, you couldn't say he's earnt his pay over the past couple of years. May be the first casualty of the Football Department review.

Unless Goodwin isn't part of the List Management Committee, Pert didn't go behind the back of the Football Department.

There are literally hundreds of ways a story like this can get out. I found out a few days before the Grand Final that Luke Parker had committed to joining the Roos. My source was a mate who's golfing buddy was a junior coach of Parker. Parker is close friends with his son. My mate has never met Parker or had anything to do with the Swans or Roos, but that's how easy it is for football stories to get out. So people pointing the finger at the club or Pert for leaking, are naive to the realties of football clubs.

You should seek counselling for listening to a Sam McClure podcast. 😁

I'd rather be told the reasons for putting Oliver on the trade table, than having the whole football world constantly speculating. And it definitely makes the trade more palatable to accept.

This. If Oliver has transgressed again as being reported, that's on the player first, then the Football Dept. If the CEO and the Board believe that there are cultural problems within the playing group, and the Football Dept. won't act upon them, then the CEO and Board have no other option. And it's little wonder that Goodwin and the Football Dept want to keep Oliver. After recent failed seasons, their jobs are on the line.

It may be a blessing in disguise. Our notable trades over the past 3 years have been busts. It's all part of a cunning plan, lol.

I'm sure some Demonlanders will blame Pert. With Peatling out of the equation, let's hope we keep all our current and future 1st and 2nd round draft picks, and have a mini rebuild.

Spargo averages 11 possessions, 2 tackles and .64 goals a game over his 98 game career. Spargo is none of the things you describe above.

Maybe it's due to the Football Department being under review. And it wouldn't surprise me, given our track record in trades over the past 3 years, that Pert has no confidence in the decision making of Lamb, Richo and Goodwin. It could be a precursor to Richo and Lamb getting the flick based on the review.

Spargo is a hack, and was playing for Casey last year. If he wasn't contracted, he'd be delisted. I haven't given up on McAdam. At least Owies can impact the scoreboard.

Correct. I'm not a Pert fan, but it's delusional to think that he is acting independently of the Football Department. The only reason we would be shopping Oliver around is that his off field issues are similar to that of Jesse Hogan. But any club that wants him needs to sell the farm to get him, which is appropriate given that the club is Geelong. San De Konning wasn't best 23 in their finals team, so he would be merely steak knives to any deal. Can't see what they have to offer that would satisfy us.

If we trade Oliver, then pursuing Houston is pointless. Without Oliver, we would need a mini rebuild with high end young talent.

I bet he didn't write it before the GF. If the Lions lost, Fagan would have come under the same scrutiny. It's easy after the event.