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Not sure why we'd panic. Much prefer Hogan on the list over May, even if we play Hogan in defence for the first few weeks of the season, while Lever gets fit. I just don't get why people seem to be scrambling to get May in. Our rebound defence dominated when everything clicked for Lever and that was without frost who clearly should have got a game earlier.

There's having faith in the list management team and there's expecting a fair price, not mutually exclusive.

I think it's pretty ironic that Sydney's into Vanders, he and Alex Johnson played comebacks in the same round. They've just dropped Johnson for being too injury prone. It'd be a pity to see him go, the multitude who are saying no loss, just a fringe player are overlooking the serious competitive edge he brings. He's really handy when he gets going and is great cover if Viney has a period on the sidelines again. Also helps to keep the hard contested work going outside of the centre square.

I reckon we should take both picks to the bank and pick up the twins. I want a premiership but I'm greedy and want a dynasty, we've missed the top end of the draft for too many years for mine. Otherwise, ask for another brayshaw brother and a pick to trade in May.

What do Demonlanders think about pick 5 and Andrew Brayshaw for Hogan?

Same umpire as the gold coast match I think. That was the first time I've been to the MCG this year when the umpiring didn't completely ruin at least a quarter of footy for us, might not be as bad as you all think. ...could have had more to do with the competition that day though.

If he didn't mean to cave his face in surely he would've paused? A bit of shock, some instant remorse? Call a trainer over even? They are supposed to be friends... Unless there's something else in the footage that I didn't see, pretty sure that defence is bs.

I'll tune it up based on the consensus

Anyone who thinks we don't have depth - try fitting in Vandenburg, Harmes, Neal-Bullen, Garland and Bugg to name a handful.

Looking at his draft year, Lever is top 3 in terms of output. Probably top 2 if I wasn't so biased with Petracca. Go back to 2014 - you'd pick Jake Lever with number 1 (Isaac Heeney was an Academy player). Would you swap pick 10 & 14 for pick 1?

Look it's probably about right if next year's first rounder is 16-18. Come On Lever! Premiership here we come - no pressure.

Well [censored]. Jake will be great but we had the leverage, he was willing to walk and there was no way he was going back to the crows. Two firsts for Jake and a 4th - 3rd ain't fantastic. We do have a fantastic backline now though: Hibberd, Tommy Mac, Lever, Hunt, Frost, Jetta. So versatile.

Few things guys, beams is an amazingly good player. He is worth giving up pick 3 for. Edit: Collingwood did not want him to leave. Wouldn't touch him unless we could get his brother down from Brisbane.