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WELCOME BACK MFCSS by George on the Outer Yes folks, it’s back ... the ever present syndrome that afflicts supporters of the Melbourne Football Club. Playing in a game against St Kilda which had managed a mere two wins to date this season, with other results falling to its advantage and the chance to lock in a final eight position by a clear game and percentage, the Demons stuffed it again! Are we to see a repeat of last year, when we fell at the final hurdle? For those who suffer from the MFCSS, it is sure looking that way. Despite a three goal lead early in the first quarter, the Saints were allowed to haul it back almost never headed for the remainder of the game. How did that happen when ruckman Max Gawn had an incredible 39 hitouts, 25 disposals including 13 contested possessions and seven contested marks? Perhaps because Max was operating mostly on his own, while just too many others barely offered a whimper during the 100 minutes of the game. Mitch Hannan wrote himself a ticket to Casey with a lowly 4 disposal game, Dom Tyson a meagre 3 touches to half time, ANB an ineffective 14 touches with a solitary tackle, Sam Wiedeman with only 7 touches and tellingly not a single mark. But the side was poorly coached as well. Some of the failures during the game included no wingman for at least a 15 minute period, Gresham unmanned on the wing and half back. Until the last 10 minutes of the game, when we went man-on-man and kicked 4 goals, we persisted with the set up that hadn’t worked. Leaving Carlisle unchecked in the backline was a bonus to the Saints, and even better when we continued to bomb the ball long inside 50, with our forwards set far too much up the ground, instead of where the contest lay. Not all lay with the coaches, as we simply had too many plodders out on the field. Goodwin alluded to it in his presser, saying we lacked defensive pressure, but that wasn’t the backs, it was up the ground, where we saw the Saints free running with too many slow Melbourne players in their wake. It was an exact repeat of the Collingwood game, and fortunately St.Kilda lacked the abilities of the Pies or the result would have been similar. The backs were under enormous pressure given that 29 scoring opportunities came down their way. Harrison Petty was overwhelmed and probably wasn’t ready for the AFL level contests, but you have to start somewhere. O Mac had a handful with McCartin who got the benefit of numerous free kicks from the umpires. If anyone doubted the value of Lever, now missing, it was in evidence on this occasion, when he would have been able to get to contests and help out. Sadly Neville Jetta appeared to be still suffering the effects of the battering he took last week, and wasn’t up to his normal reliable self. Up forward Bayley Fritsch continued to show his value, snagging 4 goals from limited opportunities. Tom McDonals was down on form, but could be forgiven since he could barely get up a trop during the week. Hogan showed some signs, with 3 goals but Weidemann had little to no effect. Did I mention the umpiring? Well after last week's debacle, surely it couldn’t get worse? Wrong again! Seven goals from free kicks for the Saints, including 4 from 50m penalties saw the umpires cover themselves in glory again. Don’t let it ever be heard that they cannot influence a game, especially when the final result is a mere two points. In the middle Brayshaw and Viney were fantastic, but were they used correctly? Viney sent to tag Jack Steven meant one of our best contested ball magnets didn’t have much effect in the first half. Once released from that role he almost single-handedly lifted the side to victory. Brayshaw despite 27 touches only spent 2/3 of the game time on the ground. What gives? Was he injured? It didn't look like it given his intensity. Jones played off the wing and still managed 27 touches as well, but once again, was this the best use of him? He certainly doesn’t have that outside run, but he certainly has inside grunt. A respectable 38K crowd turned up as part of the Welcome Game, but were many of those converted by the spectacle that Melbourne produced ... again! Probably not. The side now sits barely in the eight, on equal points to 4 other sides, with Adelaide sniffing at the edge. It would indeed be a welcome game if the side can produce the same effort all over the ground as we know is possible in Darwin next week ... or the MFCSS will just get worse ... again! Melbourne 4.2.26 9.3.57 11.6.72 18.9.117 St Kilda 4.3.27 11.6.72 14.10.94 18.11.119 Goals Melbourne Fritsch 4 Harmes Hogan 3, Brayshaw 2 Lewis T McDonald Melksham Neal-Bullen Petracca Tyson St Kilda Gresham Membrey 4 McCartin 2 Armitage Battle Billings Clark Newnes Savage Steele Steven Best Melbourne Gawn Brayshaw Harmes Viney St Kilda Carlisle Billings Gresham Sinclair Steele Steven Armitage Injuries Melbourne Nil St Kilda Brown (hamstring) Reports Nil Umpires Deboy, Gavine, Pannell Official crowd 38,910 at the MCG

Thank heavens they play in Darwin next week.

Your votes please 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 ...

You know it's been a truly crazy weekend for VFL football when Sandringham, held goalless in its last game, could manage 21 of them in its game against Port Melbourne yesterday and then the Casey Demons, known this year for their free flowing high scoring football, could score eight for the day (only two after half time) and still beat Essendon VFL by eight points in their vital top-four battle at RAMS Arena, Craigieburn. That outcome reflected Casey’s early dominance when it kicked the first five goals of the game to the midpoint of the second quarter, an almost impassible defence led by Declan Keilty, Sam Frost and Jay Lockhart and particularly after half time, the superior class of veteran Bernie Vince (25 disposals) who was making his VFL debut. He stood out like a beacon and his contribution was enormous when the Demons were under siege and it highlighted the difference in quality between this level and the high step up to AFL. Without him, the side would not be sitting with a record of seven consecutive wins this morning. The Bombers scored the first point early but a goal from Angus Scott gae the Demons a lead which they held throughout the rest of the game. They maintained the ascendancy throughout periods of heavy rain. When the rain stopped, the Bomber resurgence began and it was relentless for a while until Casey ruckman Mitch King took a mark from close in to restore three goal lead at the main break. Essendon had the better of Casey in most departments when the game turned into a battle of defences after half time. The Bombers had plenty of run but it was the fierce tackling of the Demons and the strong marking of Keilty and Frost that saved the day in an arm wrestle that saw the home team reign their lead to 10 points at three quarter time. A goal to Tim Smith, who had been so important earlier in the game with his strength and tackling, was the perfect start to the final term but the Bombers were not to be denied. They kept coming and the defenders kept repelling until the siren heralded the end of a dour struggle with Casey still on top. The game was a breakout match for ginger headed Oskar Baker who finished with 34 touches on a wing. Billy Stretch continued his strong vein of good form and kicked two goals and Corey Wagner was again an important cog in the Casey cause. Their next assignment is a home game - Casey's first meeting with the newly formed North Melbourne VFL. Peter Jackson VFL 2018 Casey Demons 3.2.20 6.3.39 7.3.45 8.6.54 Essendon VFL 0.2.2 3.3.21 5.5.35 6.10.46 Goals Casey Demons Stretch 2 Balic Garlett Hutchins King Scott T Smith Essendon VFL Boyse 2 Houlahan Merrett Stewart Younan Best Casey Demons Keilty Wagner Stretch Vince Frost Lockhart Essendon VFL Mutch Hind Merrett Draper Heppell Clarke Statistics Oskar Baker 20 kicks 14 handballs 34 disposals 9 marks 6 tackles 126 dream team points Harley Balic 1 goal 9 kicks 7 handballs 16 disposals 4 marks 1 tackles 63 dream team points Tomas Bugg 12 kicks 5 handballs 17 disposals 3 marks 5 tackles 75 dream team points Lachlan Filipovic 2 hit outs -4 dream team points Sam Frost 10 kicks 6 handballs 16 disposals 6 marks 1 tackle 58 dream team points Jeff Garlett 1 goal 2 behinds 7 kicks 2 handballs 9 disposals 1 mark 7 tackles 65 dream team points Jack Hutchins 1 goal 2 kicks 3 handballs 5 disposals 4 marks 2 tackles 36 dream team points Dion Johnstone 3 kicks 3 handballs 6 disposals 3 marks 4 tackles 37 dream team points Declan Keilty 7 kicks 8 handballs 15 disposals 7 marks 3 tackles 68 dream team points Jay Kennedy Harris 8 kicks 9 handballs 17 disposals 1 mark 11 tackles 88 dream team points Dean Kent 10 kicks 4 handballs 14 disposals 4 marks 1 tackle 45 dream team points Mitchell King 1 goal 4 kicks 4 handballs 8 disposals 2 marks 3 tackles 17 hit outs 56 dream team point Jay Lockhart 13 kicks 7 handballs 20 disposals 4 marks 4 tackles 78 dream team points Goy Lok 3 kicks 5 handballs 8 disposals 1 mark 4 tackles 36 dream team points Corey Machaya 6 kicks 1 handballs 7 disposals 2 marks 2 tackles 35 dream team points James Munro 7 kicks 5 handballs 12 disposals 3 marks 6 tackles 61 dream team points Cameron Pedersen 10 kicks 5 handballs 15 disposals 3 marks 3 tackles 55 dream team points Corey Stockdale 5 kicks 6 handballs 11 disposals 4 tackles 45 dream team points Angus Scott 1 goal 11 kicks 7 handballs 18 disposals marks tackles dream team points Tim Smith 1 goal 11 kicks 9 handballs 20 disposals 7 marks 2 tackles 78 dream team points Billy Stretch 2 goals 13 kicks 10 handballs 23 disposals 1 mark 9 tackles 110 dream team points Bernie Vince 18 kicks 7 handballs 25 disposals 6 marks 5 tackles 107 dream team points Corey Wagner 15 kicks 12 handballs 27 disposals 2 marks 9 tackles 106 dream team points

CRAZY WEEKEND by KC from Casey It’s been a truly crazy weekend for VFL footballs far when Sandringham, held goalless in its last game, could manage 21 of them in its game against Port Melbourne yesterday and the Casey Demons, known this year for their free flowing high scoring football, scored eight for the day (only two after half time) and still beat Essendon VFL by eight points in their vital top-four battle at RAMS Arena, Craigieburn. You know it's been a truly crazy weekend for VFL football when Sandringham, held goalless in its last game, could manage 21 of them in its game against Port Melbourne yesterday and then the Casey Demons, known this year for their free flowing high scoring football, could score eight for the day (only two after half time) and still beat Essendon VFL by eight points in their vital top-four battle at RAMS Arena, Craigieburn. That outcome reflected Casey’s early dominance when it kicked the first five goals of the game to the midpoint of the second quarter, an almost impassible defence led by Declan Keilty, Sam Frost and Jay Lockhart and particularly after half time, the superior class of veteran Bernie Vince (25 disposals) who was making his VFL debut. He stood out like a beacon and his contribution was enormous when the Demons were under siege and it highlighted the difference in quality between this level and the high step up to AFL. Without him, the side would not be sitting with a record of seven consecutive wins this morning. The Bombers scored the first point early but a goal from Angus Scott gae the Demons a lead which they held throughout the rest of the game. They maintained the ascendancy throughout periods of heavy rain. When the rain stopped, the Bomber resurgence began and it was relentless for a while until Casey ruckman Mitch King took a mark from close in to restore three goal lead at the main break. Essendon had the better of Casey in most departments when the game turned into a battle of defences after half time. The Bombers had plenty of run but it was the fierce tackling of the Demons and the strong marking of Keilty and Frost that saved the day in an arm wrestle that saw the home team reign their lead to 10 points at three quarter time. A goal to Tim Smith, who had been so important earlier in the game with his strength and tackling, was the perfect start to the final term but the Bombers were not to be denied. They kept coming and the defenders kept repelling until the siren heralded the end of a dour struggle with Casey still on top. The game was a breakout match for ginger headed Oskar Baker who finished with 34 touches on a wing. Billy Stretch continued his strong vein of good form and kicked two goals and Corey Wagner was again an important cog in the Casey cause. Their next assignment is a home game - Casey's first meeting with the newly formed North Melbourne VFL. Peter Jackson VFL 2018 Casey Demons 3.2.20 6.3.39 7.3.45 8.6.54 Essendon VFL 0.2.2 3.3.21 5.5.35 6.10.46 Goals Casey Demons Stretch 2 Balic Garlett Hutchins King Scott T Smith Essendon VFL Boyse 2 Houlahan Merrett Stewart Younan Best Casey Demons Keilty Wagner Stretch Vince Frost Lockhart Essendon VFL Mutch Hind Merrett Draper Heppell Clarke Statistics Oskar Baker 20 kicks 14 handballs 34 disposals 9 marks 6 tackles 126 dream team points Harley Balic 1 goal 9 kicks 7 handballs 16 disposals 4 marks 1 tackles 63 dream team points Tomas Bugg 12 kicks 5 handballs 17 disposals 3 marks 5 tackles 75 dream team points Lachlan Filipovic 2 hit outs -4 dream team points Sam Frost 10 kicks 6 handballs 16 disposals 6 marks 1 tackle 58 dream team points Jeff Garlett 1 goal 2 behinds 7 kicks 2 handballs 9 disposals 1 mark 7 tackles 65 dream team points Jack Hutchins 1 goal 2 kicks 3 handballs 5 disposals 4 marks 2 tackles 36 dream team points Dion Johnstone 3 kicks 3 handballs 6 disposals 3 marks 4 tackles 37 dream team points Declan Keilty 7 kicks 8 handballs 15 disposals 7 marks 3 tackles 68 dream team points Jay Kennedy Harris 8 kicks 9 handballs 17 disposals 1 mark 11 tackles 88 dream team points Dean Kent 10 kicks 4 handballs 14 disposals 4 marks 1 tackle 45 dream team points Mitchell King 1 goal 4 kicks 4 handballs 8 disposals 2 marks 3 tackles 17 hit outs 56 dream team point Jay Lockhart 13 kicks 7 handballs 20 disposals 4 marks 4 tackles 78 dream team points Goy Lok 3 kicks 5 handballs 8 disposals 1 mark 4 tackles 36 dream team points Corey Machaya 6 kicks 1 handballs 7 disposals 2 marks 2 tackles 35 dream team points James Munro 7 kicks 5 handballs 12 disposals 3 marks 6 tackles 61 dream team points Cameron Pedersen 10 kicks 5 handballs 15 disposals 3 marks 3 tackles 55 dream team points Corey Stockdale 5 kicks 6 handballs 11 disposals 4 tackles 45 dream team points Angus Scott 1 goal 11 kicks 7 handballs 18 disposals marks tackles dream team points Tim Smith 1 goal 11 kicks 9 handballs 20 disposals 7 marks 2 tackles 78 dream team points Billy Stretch 2 goals 13 kicks 10 handballs 23 disposals 1 mark 9 tackles 110 dream team points Bernie Vince 18 kicks 7 handballs 25 disposals 6 marks 5 tackles 107 dream team points Corey Wagner 15 kicks 12 handballs 27 disposals 2 marks 9 tackles 106 dream team points

Caroline Wilson strikes again.

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I think we're more excited for Jack than Port. ?

Well done Jack and good luck.

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I was watching Australia’s World Cup hopes sink late the other night when it’s soccer team lived up to its usual standards of hard work and endeavour without the ability to finish off and gain the full measure of reward for effort. All of us know that the Aussies are minnows in the world game and they have been pushing uphill since the very start of their campaign some three years ago but in the end, the composure was not there and the ability to finish was missing in Russia. I think the same thing might apply to the Melbourne Football Club as it goes about its own campaign to make the AFL finals this year. We have twice seen the Demons dominate possession against top eight opponents in Geelong and then Port Adelaide but failing to finish off their spectacular advantages in themselves of getting the ball into places from where they should be scoring - and doing so heavily. Against the Cats, they dominated the inside 50 count by 64 to 41 and lost a close game by 3 points. The advantage in that statistic was even greater against the Power (68-39) with the home side winning by 11 points and the Dees managing a pitiful ratio of less than 1 point per forward 50 entry. We know that players like Jesse Hogan and Christian Perracca had poor nights at the Adelaide Oval but the figures simply don’t add up because everywhere else around the ground, there was plenty of endeavour shown (oh, and yes, they were stymied somewhat by the noise of affirmation from the crowd that made the officiating umpires another obstacle on their road to victory but they have to live with that). No offence to the opposition this week but I can’t see the Saints exerting the same pressure that Port Adelaide did at home. However, Simon Goodwin now has his work cut out to restore his side to its revered position of just a month ago and this week’s fixture will do nothing to convince us that they’ve redeemed themselves. *** Scroll for Prediction *** THE GAME Melbourne v St Kilda at the MCG on Sunday 1 July 2018 at 1.10pm HEAD TO HEAD Overall Melbourne 121 wins St Kilda 91 wins 1 drawn At Etihad Stadium Melbourne 59 wins St Kilda 35 wins Past five meetings Melbourne 3 wins St Kilda 2 wins The Coaches Goodwin 3 wins Richardson 0 wins MEDIA TV - Fox Footy Channel Live at 1.00pm RADIO - SEN ABC ABC Grandstand THE LAST TIME THEY MET Melbourne 16.10.106 defeated St Kilda 9.13.67 at Etihad Stadium, Round 7, 2018 The Demons were in control for most of the game against the wasteful Saints. Ruckman Max Gawn was in stellar form and midfielder Clayton Oliver was a prolific ball winner. THE TEAMS MELBOURNE B: Harry Petty, Oscar McDonald, Neville Jetta HB: Michael Hibberd, Joel Smith, Jordan Lewis C:Christian Petracca, Jack Viney, Angus Brayshaw HF: Christian Salem, Jesse Hogan, Clayton Oliver F: Alex Neal-Bullen, Mitch Hannan, Tom McDonald Foll: Max Gawn, Jake Melksham, Nathan Jones I/C: Bayley Fritsch, James Harmes, Dom Tyson, Sam Weideman Emg: Cameron Pedersen, Charlie Spargo, Billy Stretch, Bernie Vince In: Harry Petty, Sam Weideman Out: Tim Smith (omitted) Bernie Vince (omitted) New: Harry Petty (Norwood) ST KILDA B: Daniel McKenzie, Nathan Brown, Bailey Rice HB: Jarryn Geary, Jake Carlisle, Shane Savage C:Jack Newnes, Jack Steele, Jack Sinclair HF: Jack Billings, Paddy McCartin, Maverick Weller F: Jade Gresham, Tim Membrey, Josh Battle Foll: Billy Longer, Sebastian Ross, Jack Steven I/C: David Armitage, Hunter Clark, Luke Dunstan, Darragh Joyce Emg: Sam Gilbert, Ben Paton, Lewis Pierce, Nathan Wright In: Jarryn Geary, Sam Gilbert, Darragh Joyce Ben Paton, Lewis Pierce, Nathan Wright Out Logan Austin (omitted), Jimmy Webster (Injured) New: Darragh Joyce (Ireland) They meet for the second time in the space of two months but this time it's the Saints that are on a winning streak of one (thanks to a rousing comeback from the dead against the hapless Suns who can't play out a game) while the Demons have lost their last two, their last outing being a disaster where they too, failed to play out the game. And while the relative strength of the opposition is like cheese against chalk, Melbourne is on notice and, according to coach Simon Goodwin, there is some sort of "disconnect" between the team's ability to get the football into a scoring position and its ability to make things count once it gets there. We've been used to claiming for years that its all about the midfield but just when that aspect of the team is reaching a peak, the letdown in front of goal is a major cause for concern. A little bit of reshuffling in that part of the team make up would assist. I still can't help but think about the knack the Demons have of finding new ways to disappoint. Last year, it was all of those inexplicable lapses which enabled defeat to be snatched from the jaws of victory and which culminated in the narrowest of misses when it came to making the finals. This season, it's that disconnect between forward opportunities and winning scores that has kept the side out of the top four. I'm hoping that the AFL doesn't introduce a rule like FIFA’s fair play rule that saw Senegal become the first-ever team to be eliminated from the World Cup this week because I can just see Melbourne becoming its first victim of things get close at finals time. I suppose that just about sums up the Demons and our supporters- we suffer from a fear of hurdles. Against the Saints on our own home turf however, I think we’ll get over it.

SOCCER TO ME by JVM I was watching Australia’s World Cup hopes sink late the other night when it’s soccer team lived up to its usual standards of hard work and endeavour without the ability to finish off and gain the full measure of reward for effort. All of us know that the Aussies are minnows in the world game and they have been pushing uphill since the very start of their campaign some three years ago but in the end, the composure was not there and the ability to finish was missing in Russia. I think the same thing might apply to the Melbourne Football Club as it goes about its own campaign to make the AFL finals this year. We have twice seen the Demons dominate possession against top eight opponents in Geelong and then Port Adelaide but failing to finish off their spectacular advantages in themselves of getting the ball into places from where they should be scoring - and doing so heavily. Against the Cats, they dominated the inside 50 count by 64 to 41 and lost a close game by 3 points. The advantage in that statistic was even greater against the Power (68-39) with the home side winning by 11 points and the Dees managing a pitiful ratio of less than 1 point per forward 50 entry. We know that players like Jesse Hogan and Christian Perracca had poor nights at the Adelaide Oval but the figures simply don’t add up because everywhere else around the ground, there was plenty of endeavour shown (oh, and yes, they were stymied somewhat by the noise of affirmation from the crowd that made the officiating umpires another obstacle on their road to victory but they have to live with that). No offence to the opposition this week but I can’t see the Saints exerting the same pressure that Port Adelaide did at home. However, Simon Goodwin now has his work cut out to restore his side to its revered position of just a month ago and this week’s fixture will do nothing to convince us that they’ve redeemed themselves. THE GAME Melbourne v St Kilda at the MCG on Sunday 1 July 2018 at 1.10pm HEAD TO HEAD Overall Melbourne 121 wins St Kilda 91 wins 1 drawn At Etihad Stadium Melbourne 59 wins St Kilda 35 wins Past five meetings Melbourne 3 wins St Kilda 2 wins The Coaches Goodwin 3 wins Richardson 0 wins MEDIA TV - Fox Footy Channel Live at 1.00pm RADIO - SEN ABC ABC Grandstand THE LAST TIME THEY MET Melbourne 16.10.106 defeated St Kilda 9.13.67 at Etihad Stadium, Round 7, 2018 The Demons were in control for most of the game against the wasteful Saints. Ruckman Max Gawn was in stellar form and midfielder Clayton Oliver was a prolific ball winner. THE TEAMS MELBOURNE B: Harry Petty, Oscar McDonald, Neville Jetta HB: Michael Hibberd, Joel Smith, Jordan Lewis ? Christian Petracca, Jack Viney, Angus Brayshaw HF: Christian Salem, Jesse Hogan, Clayton Oliver F: Alex Neal-Bullen, Mitch Hannan, Tom McDonald Foll: Max Gawn, Jake Melksham, Nathan Jones I/C: Bayley Fritsch, James Harmes, Dom Tyson, Sam Weideman Emg: Cameron Pedersen, Charlie Spargo, Billy Stretch, Bernie Vince In: Harry Petty, Sam Weideman Out: Tim Smith (omitted) Bernie Vince (omitted) New: Harry Petty (Norwood) ST KILDA B: Daniel McKenzie, Nathan Brown, Bailey Rice HB: Jarryn Geary, Jake Carlisle, Shane Savage C:Jack Newnes, Jack Steele, Jack Sinclair HF: Jack Billings, Paddy McCartin, Maverick Weller F: Jade Gresham, Tim Membrey, Josh Battle Foll: Billy Longer, Sebastian Ross, Jack Steven I/C: David Armitage, Hunter Clark, Luke Dunstan, Darragh Joyce Emg: Sam Gilbert, Ben Paton, Lewis Pierce, Nathan Wright In: Jarryn Geary, Sam Gilbert, Darragh Joyce Ben Paton, Lewis Pierce, Nathan Wright Out Logan Austin (omitted), Jimmy Webster (Injured) New: Darragh Joyce (Ireland) They meet for the second time in the space of two months but this time it's the Saints that are on a winning streak of one (thanks to a rousing comeback from the dead against the hapless Suns who can't play out a game) while the Demons have lost their last two, their last outing being a disaster where they too, failed to play out the game. And while the relative strength of the opposition is like cheese against chalk, Melbourne is on notice and, according to coach Simon Goodwin, there is some sort of "disconnect" between the team's ability to get the football into a scoring position and its ability to make things count once it gets there. We've been used to claiming for years that its all about the midfield but just when that aspect of the team is reaching a peak, the letdown in front of goal is a major cause for concern. A little bit of reshuffling in that part of the team make up would assist. I still can't help but think about the knack the Demons have of finding new ways to disappoint. Last year, it was all of those inexplicable lapses which enabled defeat to be snatched from the jaws of victory and which culminated in the narrowest of misses when it came to making the finals. This season, it's that disconnect between forward opportunities and winning scores that has kept the side out of the top four. I'm hoping that the AFL doesn't introduce a rule like FIFA’s fair play rule that saw Senegal become the first-ever team to be eliminated from the World Cup this week because I can just see Melbourne becoming its first victim of things get close at finals time. I suppose that just about sums up the Demons and our supporters- we suffer from a fear of hurdles. Against the Saints on our own home turf however, I think we’ll get over it.