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The news couldnt be better. It allows a new person to try and take the position and let them learn. Very happy

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    I think you're guilty of having double standards. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong but the incidents that Brock was involved in was not instigated by the man himself, a couple of idiots picked a fight with him, how do you get a 'big strike out' of that?. Neitz on the other hand got blind drunk in a well known Melbourne nightspot, tried to get into a taxi and then proceeded to do something that called for several security guards to get involved. He then decided to fight his way out of the situation.

    I'm amazed that you can so critical of McLean and at the same time completely dismiss Neitz' actions which I consider to be far worse.

    Neitz 'fronted up to it' because it was in the papers before he had a chance to sober up, but there has been other 'incidents' that he's been involved in, one example had a semitic flavour to it.

    Jarka I've never been in a fight in my life. Plenty of times there's been the potential for it, but I've avoided it. That doesn't mean I've run away from anything, but instead bought someone a beer, or made the right joke or laughed rather than swung. It takes two to get in a fight. I'm a great believer in once being bad luck, twice and a trend is developing and three times there's a problem. I'm hoping with Brock we end at two. In regards to Neitz, I don't deny the seriousness of his drunken error in judgement, I'm just prepared to excuse the one indescretion given the longevity and the quality of his service to this club.

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    What happens if we dont play 2 pre season games?? we play Geelong 1st at skilled

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    The news couldnt be better. It allows a new person to try and take the position and let them learn. Very happy

    If what you want to do is bottom out of the next few years, then yes. Get rid of all the not so great players and play the youth.

    The problem is, some of those young players will be even worse...

    I sometimes wonder with you occo, if you dropped all the players you hate from the list of 40-something, would we even have 22 left to play?

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    What happens if we dont play 2 pre season games?? we play Geelong 1st at skilled

    If we lose the first round, we still play 3 more praccys, called "challenge" matches or something. I presume he'd miss out on one of them.

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    Jarka I've never been in a fight in my life. Plenty of times there's been the potential for it, but I've avoided it. That doesn't mean I've run away from anything, but instead bought someone a beer, or made the right joke or laughed rather than swung. It takes two to get in a fight. I'm a great believer in once being bad luck, twice and a trend is developing and three times there's a problem. I'm hoping with Brock we end at two. In regards to Neitz, I don't deny the seriousness of his drunken error in judgement, I'm just prepared to excuse the one indescretion given the longevity and the quality of his service to this club.

    That's the thing though Goodvibes, it wasn't just the one incident, there were others. So if it's ok to excuse several 'incidents' from Neitz then why doesn't McLean get the same treatment?

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    That's the thing though Goodvibes, it wasn't just the one incident, there were others. So if it's ok to excuse several 'incidents' from Neitz then why doesn't McLean get the same treatment?

    As I said Jarka correct me if I'm wrong - I can only remember the one big indiscretion. Please don't misunderstand me - I'm a big fan of Brock McLean and certainly believe in giving people a chance to redeem themselves but he has a long career ahead of him and a year out of the leadership group may have sent the appropriate message. Having to sit in judgement on another player for a similar indiscretion is clearly problematic. I'm a teacher (cue H to shoot me down in flames) and I guess fairness, consistency and transparency are things that serve me well when it comes to providing leadership and discipline. The next time one our first year draftees are out on the [censored] and find themselves confronted with a drunken protagonist I wonder how they'll react. If I was a youngster at our club, the first person I would look up to would be Brock McLean. Maybe that's not fair but he has an enormous responsibility to set the right example. We know he does on the track and when it comes to the cut and thrust of a game but that responsibility extends (perhaps unreasonably) to his off-season holidays.

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    As I said Jarka correct me if I'm wrong - I can only remember the one big indiscretion. Please don't misunderstand me - I'm a big fan of Brock McLean and certainly believe in giving people a chance to redeem themselves but he has a long career ahead of him and a year out of the leadership group may have sent the appropriate message. Having to sit in judgement on another player for a similar indiscretion is clearly problematic. I'm a teacher (cue H to shoot me down in flames) and I guess fairness, consistency and transparency are things that serve me well when it comes to providing leadership and discipline. The next time one our first year draftees are out on the [censored] and find themselves confronted with a drunken protagonist I wonder how they'll react. If I was a youngster at our club, the first person I would look up to would be Brock McLean. Maybe that's not fair but he has an enormous responsibility to set the right example. We know he does on the track and when it comes to the cut and thrust of a game but that responsibility extends (perhaps unreasonably) to his off-season holidays.

    Aren't we convicting McLean without giving him the opportunity to answer for himself?

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