Jump to content


Recommended Posts

Posted
Just wondering what people think.

Is it better to have pick 1 and nothing else in the top 30 of the draft (i.e. Carlton) or picks 4, 14 and 21?

I appreciate that Carlton got Juda$ but that's now in the past.

it depends. if we pick up a dud at pick 4, and kruiser turns into a champion, then obviously prefer carlton's position.

But, if we get Morton, then we could definitly be the winners. Morton could realistically have gone pick 1 this year, and could end up the best player in the draft in 2 years time.

So if our pick 4 turns out to be as good as pick1, then having pick 4 and 14 as well obviuosly makes us better off.

Posted

Pick One, while obviously a position of envy for other clubs, brings with it its own demons. Club and player in this position are spotlighted to get it right, and this can bring unnecessary pressure to bear on both. While the best junior player of the day may be chosen, many variables over a career will ultimately determine whether the choice was ultimately right.

Take the 2001 trio of Hodge, Ball and Judd, taken in that order. At the time, speculation raged over who should go first and it was agreed that any of the three could claim the number one spot. So six years down the track, how do they stack up?

Judd would appear to be the one, followed by Hodge, then Ball. Ball's career has been derailed by on-going groin/OP injury, forseeable at the time? I doubt it. Judd entered that draft on the back of two shoulder reconstructions and was something of a risk. Injury free till 2007, this year though for the first time he has also been severely restricted by a groin/OP injury that perhaps threatens a return to his former glory - time will tell. Hodge has probably been the most durable of the three and racks up 25-35 posessions every week and can play anywhere. Will he at the end of their respective careers be the anointed one?

They have always been the "big three" when assessing the worth of the various drafts but as good as that draft supposedly was, many of the rest of that Top 10 of 2001 have had chequered careers.

In many ways, we tend to value the picks taken further on in the draft as the one that "slipped through" or the "smokey" or "bargain basement get" when the homework done by the recruiting gurus comes to the fore.

Good player development, mentoring, injury, club culture, maturity, personal issues or lack of, luck etc etc, all also play a part in whether a player becomes a champion or not, as well as the natural talent displayed at junior levels which has clubs and supporters salivating - often prematurely.

So in answer to the question, I would rather have the extra picks in the Top 20, and rely on those at the club to develop them properly and wisely.

Plenty of champions have come from below Pick One.

Posted

it would be fair to say that carlton are in a great position in that they can get WHOEVER they want with the first pick while the demons are trying to take a guess at what will happen...however we have 3 first round draft picks for the first time so we could turn out lucky

Posted
Just wondering what people think.

Is it better to have pick 1 and nothing else in the top 30 of the draft (i.e. Carlton) or picks 4, 14 and 21?

I appreciate that Carlton got Juda$ but that's now in the past.

YOu cant ignore the fact that Carlton had picks 1, 3 and 20

SO you have to ask would you prefer pick 1 and Chris Judd, or picks 4, 14 and 21?

Posted
Just wondering what people think.

Is it better to have pick 1 and nothing else in the top 30 of the draft (i.e. Carlton) or picks 4, 14 and 21?

DEFINITELY the latter. 3 players in the top 21 could become stars. Look at Rivers who was taken in the teens, Brock who was taken lower than he should have been, if only by a pick or two... After they're recruited, whether they were pick 1 or pick 81 they all have the same opportunity to impress the club. Granted the tag of first round pick can elongate a dud player's career, but as we know recruiting is just so hit and miss. We have 3 bites at the first round cherry, they have 1. I'd take our position any day of the week, EVEN WITH our lack of genuine stars...

Posted
DEFINITELY the latter. 3 players in the top 21 could become stars. Look at Rivers who was taken in the teens, Brock who was taken lower than he should have been, if only by a pick or two... After they're recruited, whether they were pick 1 or pick 81 they all have the same opportunity to impress the club. Granted the tag of first round pick can elongate a dud player's career, but as we know recruiting is just so hit and miss. We have 3 bites at the first round cherry, they have 1. I'd take our position any day of the week, EVEN WITH our lack of genuine stars...

Slight correction, Rivers was actually taken with pick 26, just to enforce your point further.

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Unfortunately, your content contains terms that we do not allow. Please edit your content to remove the highlighted words below.
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.
  • Demonland Forums  

  • Match Previews, Reports & Articles  

    TRAINING: Friday 22nd November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers were out in force on a scorching morning out at Gosch's Paddock for the final session before the whole squad reunites for the Preseason Training Camp. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS It’s going to be a scorcher today but I’m in the shade at Gosch’s Paddock ready to bring you some observations from the final session before the Preseason Training Camp next week.  Salem, Fritsch & Campbell are already on the track. Still no number on Campbell’s

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports 3

    UP IN LIGHTS by Whispering Jack

    Those who watched the 2024 Marsh AFL National Championships closely this year would not be particularly surprised that Melbourne selected Victoria Country pair Harvey Langford and Xavier Lindsay on the first night of the AFL National Draft. The two left-footed midfielders are as different as chalk and cheese but they had similar impacts in their Coates Talent League teams and in the National Championships in 2024. Their interstate side was edged out at the very end of the tournament for tea

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Special Features

    TRAINING: Wednesday 20th November 2024

    It’s a beautiful cool morning down at Gosch’s Paddock and I’ve arrived early to bring you my observations from today’s session. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Reigning Keith Bluey Truscott champion Jack Viney is the first one out on the track.  Jack’s wearing the red version of the new training guernsey which is the only version available for sale at the Demon Shop. TRAINING: Viney, Clarry, Lever, TMac, Rivers, Petty, McVee, Bowey, JVR, Hore, Tom Campbell (in tr

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    TRAINING: Monday 18th November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers ventured down to Gosch's Paddock for the final week of training for the 1st to 4th Years until they are joined by the rest of the senior squad for Preseason Training Camp in Mansfield next week. WAYNE RUSSELL'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS No Ollie, Chin, Riv today, but Rick & Spargs turned up and McDonald was there in casual attire. Seston, and Howes did a lot of boundary running, and Tom Campbell continued his work with individual trainer in non-MFC

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    2024 Player Reviews: #11 Max Gawn

    Champion ruckman and brilliant leader, Max Gawn earned his seventh All-Australian team blazer and constantly held the team up on his shoulders in what was truly a difficult season for the Demons. Date of Birth: 30 December 1991 Height: 209cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 224 Goals MFC 2024: 11 Career Total: 109 Brownlow Medal Votes: 13 Melbourne Football Club: 2nd Best & Fairest: 405 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 12

    2024 Player Reviews: #36 Kysaiah Pickett

    The Demons’ aggressive small forward who kicks goals and defends the Demons’ ball in the forward arc. When he’s on song, he’s unstoppable but he did blot his copybook with a three week suspension in the final round. Date of Birth: 2 June 2001 Height: 171cm Games MFC 2024: 21 Career Total: 106 Goals MFC 2024: 36 Career Total: 161 Brownlow Medal Votes: 3 Melbourne Football Club: 4th Best & Fairest: 369 votes

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 5

    TRAINING: Friday 15th November 2024

    Demonland Trackwatchers took advantage of the beautiful sunshine to head down to Gosch's Paddock and witness the return of Clayton Oliver to club for his first session in the lead up to the 2025 season. DEMONLAND'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS Clarry in the house!! Training: JVR, McVee, Windsor, Tholstrup, Woey, Brown, Petty, Adams, Chandler, Turner, Bowey, Seston, Kentfield, Laurie, Sparrow, Viney, Rivers, Jefferson, Hore, Howes, Verrall, AMW, Clarry Tom Campbell is here

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports

    2024 Player Reviews: #7 Jack Viney

    The tough on baller won his second Keith 'Bluey' Truscott Trophy in a narrow battle with skipper Max Gawn and Alex Neal-Bullen and battled on manfully in the face of a number of injury niggles. Date of Birth: 13 April 1994 Height: 178cm Games MFC 2024: 23 Career Total: 219 Goals MFC 2024: 10 Career Total: 66 Brownlow Medal Votes: 8

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Melbourne Demons 3

    TRAINING: Wednesday 13th November 2024

    A couple of Demonland Trackwatchers braved the rain and headed down to Gosch's paddock to bring you their observations from the second day of Preseason training for the 1st to 4th Year players. DITCHA'S PRESEASON TRAINING OBSERVATIONS I attended some of the training today. Richo spoke to me and said not to believe what is in the media, as we will good this year. Jefferson and Kentfield looked big and strong.  Petty was doing all the training. Adams looked like he was in rehab.  KE

    Demonland
    Demonland |
    Training Reports
  • Tell a friend

    Love Demonland? Tell a friend!
×
×
  • Create New...