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So, our 2019 draft board. Or at least a partial picture from October.

This list is compiled courtesy of a snap-shot taken from our latest ‘To Hell and Back’ episode. Hats off to @KK16 for the sharp eyes. He’ll be a useful viewing companion for the upcoming season of Westworld.

Provisos: This is not a quarrel: I’m happy with who we got. It’s just a useful fact-check reference for posterity, to combat the likely future speculation/revisionism al a Josh Kelly. There are also some intriguing mysteries still to resolve. Still, I expect at least some posters will say ‘move on’.

It may be that this was an accidental leak of club IP – in which case there’s an argument it should be taken down. I don’t want to hurt the club. But I don’t however think it matters, or should matter if we’re serious. Regardless, it’s already forever now in the public domain, and may not even be a mistake. At the very least, we got everyone we wanted above where they were rated.  

Lastly: we were drafting in part for needs – so this isn’t a definitive ranking of who we considered the best players, just who we would take in order a month prior to the draft. Judging by this preliminary board and who was available at which stage on the night demonstrates that there was at least a little bit of movement before the draft.

Ultimately, it’s hard to place Pickett and those around him, as there were other practicalities involved and his worth in the end was effectively bundled with a high second-round pick. There may be some errors in my deductions and placements. Final selection numbers are in brackets.

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1 Rowell (1)
2 Jackson (3)
3 Green (10: academy)
4 Young (7)
5 Anderson (2)
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Not visible:

6           
7
8 (*traded out)
9
10
11
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Players off the board at the eventual time of Pickett’s selection included Ash / Stephens / Serong / Henry (academy) / and Flanders. We moved down two spots prior to the draft, so (without factoring in pragmatism etc.) we rated Pickett-plus higher than at least some of these players or the possibility of any.

12 (Pickett-plus taken)

Players still available at that selection not visible on the board elsewhere: Day / Weightman / Kemp / Georgiades / Dow / Robertson. We also took Rivers ahead of B. Smith, who was ranked at 18 on our early board – indicating that Rivers was in this group. Robertson, judging by draft night footage, was ranked ahead of Rivers.

13
14
15
16
17

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18 B. Smith (33)
19 De Koning (19)
20 MCasey (6)
21 Schoenberg (24)
22 Gould (26)
23 Bergman (14)
24 Worrell (28)
25 Maginness (29: father/son)
26? (there a few unreadable names on the board in red, including here, which somewhat disrupts some of the deductions made from the list).
27 Mead (25: father/son)
28 C. Stephens? (16)

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Another part of the board not visible and a strange gap at 32. Some players in this rough range not visibly featured elsewhere on our board (and where they were ultimately taken) – note: there may be some errors here – include Jones, 30, Perez, 35, Taylor, 36, Coleman, 37 (academy), Evans, 41, O’Conner, 42, Martyn (academy), 44, and Bianco, 46.

29
30
31
32 (strange gap)
33
34

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35 Cumberland (43 academy)
36 Sparkes (not selected)

A wingman, Sparkes was also overlooked at our pick 2 in the rookie draft. Rowels (52 – taken at 4 in the rookie draft) was another player selected early in the rookie draft who was on our board to pick 61 (there’s another strange gap from 62 to 68).

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37 Byrnes (52)
38 Rantall (40)
39 Philp (20)
40 J. Sharp (27)
41 Comben (31)
42 Jamieson (49)

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Some remaining mysteries: The strange gaps. Also, the colour-key. Dark blue seems to indicate father-son; orange/light blue (striped with club colours?) maybe ‘academy’. I think it’s actually a mix. There’s also a white border around some of these and not others. Red, I have no idea. Another mystery is the overall green/yellow and then white pattern. It seems to be groupings, but Taheny, at 61 on our board (the last spot before the gap), is rendered in yellow, as is Rowell at 1. Then next to some of the players are ‘traffic lights’ in orange, white and green – hard to make sense of these at all.

Would love if other posters could contribute to sort out the errors and fill in some of the mysteries with fresh eyes. 

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If I can find the time, I'm going to rank the draft 'winners and losers' from the MFC's perspective according to this table. Clearly a nerd at heart. But I'm also super-cool because I will be traveling extensively over the next month (alert to any of our sexpats in Thailand and Southeast Asia, let me know where the best spot is to watch our games), so would appreciate any other OCD help in this regard. 

I may rank it somehow according to draft value points. E.g. Fremantle scored Young at 7 (1644), who was 4th on our list (2044): so a 390-point bump, or equivalent of pick 42 (according to this calculator: https://www.draftguru.com.au/pick-value-calculator). Green was ranked at 3 and taken at 10: an 839 point bonus equivalent to pick 23. Minus Anderson, who by our reckoning they lost 639 points on. 

Due to the black-spots on the list, it will be far from definitive. 

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18 minutes ago, Watts the matter said:

How do you know it's Robertson at 5? Am I missing something or could it be Anderson?

Quite right (and this is exactly the help I was after). I just took KK16's lead in his original post. Anderson makes much more sense (as I overlooked/didn't include him elsewhere). Although it has some value, the previous major Demonland update made it so original posts couldn't be adjusted/edited after a certain time-frame. Consider Anderson at 5, and Robertson down in that group from 13 to 16 - based on him being available at the time of Pickett's selection but still evidently above Rivers. 

Edit: I was able to adjust the table. Cheers for your catch. 

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16 hours ago, Skuit said:

Quite right (and this is exactly the help I was after). I just took KK16's lead in his original post. Anderson makes much more sense (as I overlooked/didn't include him elsewhere). Although it has some value, the previous major Demonland update made it so original posts couldn't be adjusted/edited after a certain time-frame. Consider Anderson at 5, and Robertson down in that group from 13 to 16 - based on him being available at the time of Pickett's selection but still evidently above Rivers. 

Edit: I was able to adjust the table. Cheers for your catch. 

Back to Robertson (some posters in the other thread have pointed out that heights are listed and it's 185 and you can briefly see tson)

Will watch Noah Anderson with a lot of interest, very interesting we didn't rate him top 5.

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16 hours ago, Skuit said:

Quite right (and this is exactly the help I was after). I just took KK16's lead in his original post. Anderson makes much more sense (as I overlooked/didn't include him elsewhere). Although it has some value, the previous major Demonland update made it so original posts couldn't be adjusted/edited after a certain time-frame. Consider Anderson at 5, and Robertson down in that group from 13 to 16 - based on him being available at the time of Pickett's selection but still evidently above Rivers. 

Edit: I was able to adjust the table. Cheers for your catch. 

Sorry to be a pain but it looks more like a 'tson' than an 'Rson'. So it seems like it would be Robertson. Also, as pointed out in another thread, that's likely their heights next to them. Robertson is roughly 185, Anderson is 191.

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