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I'll start this post with the claimer that this is just my opinion & would love opposing feedback. 

In any case, after 21 rounds I've finally felt the justification to post this.

I'm a big believer in energy and I believe that our current coaching staff, in particular Simon Goodwin, feeds/installs negative nervous energy into our players.

Big far fetched statement for sure, and I'm sure many eyes will roll but here is my justification:

Simon Goodwin's jittery and nervous interview before Collingwood round 23 last year was the first sign. As a supporter I was beyond confident going into the game, people talked of a danger game & I laughed in my head believing in a 10 goal win against an injury ravaged pies (Pendlebury etc... out), but my confidence plummeted once I heard the pre interview from Goodwin game day, after hearing from him I went from confident to nervous. This was a genuine feeling as a supporter hearing him speak. He spoke nervously, he voice was shaking, he repeatedly mentioned what a big game it was. Thinking back I couldn't imagine Clarkson speaking in the same manner. In any case at the time I let it fly. 

10 years ago I would've laughed at the argument that a coaches pre game interview could have any impact on his players but that changed after hearing from the tigers and Hardwick last year. 

It's been on record that once Hardwick started being more relaxed with the players they started winning important football matches and as we know eventually the 2017 premiership.

Remember when the Tiges would choke in finals? Hardwick admitted that he was too intense built the games up too much, much like I felt like Goodwin has. I remember the tiges being like us,  paralysed in important games, missing shot not playing their real game that had made them successful. 

As history shows post 2016, Hardwick changed his coaching demeanour, he became more relaxed, & open, this year that mantra is demonstrated by first year player Jack Higgins sharing a joke with the players at 3/4 time, heck Hardwick and the team even laughed at the crows 'power stance' post the anthem in the 2017 grand final.

Lets be honest we have the players that are in the top eight sides of the comp, currently we don't have the mentality to win the big games win they matter, and for me that come down to the coach and his energy on game day.

I heard an interview with Petracca a few weeks back on SEN and he said he was nervous in the last few mins against Adelaide when Betts hit the post in the goal square. My thoughts immediately went to Dusty Martin thinking would he be nervous or would he be thinking about finishing the game off. Harsh but my thoughts.  

IMO in big games we play nervous, we miss shots on goal, we don't play our natural game and we loose from unlosable positions (Geelong twice near siren, Port, etc.). All this reminds me of the tiges before last year.

Goodwin must change his intense (contested ball focused) nervous demeanour he projects on our players  to be our next premiership coach. If he he doesn't IMO we'll be nothing but a first week losing finalist like the tigers of old. 

 

 

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Maybe. But we don't know. Goodwin also talks about the team and club taking hold of the opportunity. With Richmond you have a big club with decades of mediocrity. It is very tough to break that and kudos to them because they have done it superbly. 

Goodwin can be a very good coach. He is 23 wins, 19 losses, which is Daniher levels of good, not great. I am sure he is aware that the gap between good and great is larger than between bad and good.

It's clear he is still learning, I think he has improved as a coach a lot as the season has progressed but we have been found out on game day with what I would call perennial losers. 

I don't think he is the reason we lost today. It was yet another lesson from a team and club with many runs on the board. 

I agree with him that we're very close "it's not funny" as he said after the Geelong game.

Unfortunately, we may need to wait until 2019 to really find that breakthrough. And Goodwin's coaching will be really tested, not in the next two weeks, but in list development and change. He has some tough decisions to make this summer. We're going to see some club favourites moved on.

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3 minutes ago, praha said:

Maybe. But we don't know. Goodwin also talks about the team and club taking hold of the opportunity. With Richmond you have a big club with decades of mediocrity. It is very tough to break that and kudos to them because they have done it superbly. 

Goodwin can be a very good coach. He is 23 wins, 19 losses, which is Daniher levels of good, not great. I am sure he is aware that the gap between good and great is larger than between bad and good.

It's clear he is still learning, I think he has improved as a coach a lot as the season has progressed but we have been found out on game day with what I would call perennial losers. 

I don't think he is the reason we lost today. It was yet another lesson from a team and club with many runs on the board. 

I agree with him that we're very close "it's not funny" as he said after the Geelong game.

Unfortunately, we may need to wait until 2019 to really find that breakthrough. And Goodwin's coaching will be really tested, not in the next two weeks, but in list development and change. He has some tough decisions to make this summer. We're going to see some club favourites moved on.

Can't disagree with you, I loved Goody early. However, all year I've felt off. Today just made we feel like if we had Clarko, Dimma or even Lyon we'd be well in the eight. I look at the hawks team and I can't justify them being above us on talent. I'm not against Goody but I reckon the questions need to be asked. Hope we fire next two but if we don't. Next year is make or break for me. 

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3 minutes ago, Perago Validus said:

Can't disagree with you, I loved Goody early. However, all year I've felt off. Today just made we feel like if we had Clarko, Dimma or even Lyon we'd be well in the eight. I look at the hawks team and I can't justify them being above us on talent. I'm not against Goody but I reckon the questions need to be asked. Hope we fire next two but if we don't. Next year is make or break for me. 

hawks have the exposure and class. you can't understate finals experience. we will eventually turn the corner but wholly agree goodwin isn't immune from criticism.

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45 minutes ago, Perago Validus said:

I'll start this post with the claimer that this is just my opinion & would love opposing feedback. 

In any case, after 21 rounds I've finally felt the justification to post this.

I'm a big believer in energy and I believe that our current coaching staff, in particular Simon Goodwin, feeds/installs negative nervous energy into our players.

Big far fetched statement for sure, and I'm sure many eyes will roll but here is my justification:

Simon Goodwin's jittery and nervous interview before Collingwood round 23 last year was the first sign. As a supporter I was beyond confident going into the game, people talked of a danger game & I laughed in my head believing in a 10 goal win against an injury ravaged pies (Pendlebury etc... out), but my confidence plummeted once I heard the pre interview from Goodwin game day, after hearing from him I went from confident to nervous. This was a genuine feeling as a supporter hearing him speak. He spoke nervously, he voice was shaking, he repeatedly mentioned what a big game it was. Thinking back I couldn't imagine Clarkson speaking in the same manner. In any case at the time I let it fly. 

10 years ago I would've laughed at the argument that a coaches pre game interview could have any impact on his players but that changed after hearing from the tigers and Hardwick last year. 

It's been on record that once Hardwick started being more relaxed with the players they started winning important football matches and as we know eventually the 2017 premiership.

Remember when the Tiges would choke in finals? Hardwick admitted that he was too intense built the games up too much, much like I felt like Goodwin has. I remember the tiges being like us,  paralysed in important games, missing shot not playing their real game that had made them successful. 

As history shows post 2016, Hardwick changed his coaching demeanour, he became more relaxed, & open, this year that mantra is demonstrated by first year player Jack Higgins sharing a joke with the players at 3/4 time, heck Hardwick and the team even laughed at the crows 'power stance' post the anthem in the 2017 grand final.

Lets be honest we have the players that are in the top eight sides of the comp, currently we don't have the mentality to win the big games win they matter, and for me that come down to the coach and his energy on game day.

I heard an interview with Petracca a few weeks back on SEN and he said he was nervous in the last few mins against Adelaide when Betts hit the post in the goal square. My thoughts immediately went to Dusty Martin thinking would he be nervous or would he be thinking about finishing the game off. Harsh but my thoughts.  

IMO in big games we play nervous, we miss shots on goal, we don't play our natural game and we loose from unlosable positions (Geelong twice near siren, Port, etc.). All this reminds me of the tiges before last year.

Goodwin must change his intense (contested ball focused) nervous demeanour he projects on our players  to be our next premiership coach. If he he doesn't IMO we'll be nothing but a first week losing finalist like the tigers of old. 

 

 

Interesting.

Question. "feeding negative nervous energy into players" by senior AFL Coach, who would be all over the principle of confidence?.........

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