Can anyone truly make an assessment on the MFC at the moment as everywhere you look it appears to be toxic?

Although the CEO position appears to be resolved in the short term.

The President and Board do not give me any confidence about the future of the MFC.

The coaching staff appears to be on another planet and unable to turn around the on field performance. The MFC will be lucky to win another game this season, but even if it does that still less wins then in 2012. Surely the coaching/recruiting staff did not plan to loss more game then last year as there was only four of them (3 against expansion teams). I personally could not understand how anyone one could argue that at this stage of the MFC rebuild that losing more game then the year before is showing improvement. Losing is like a virus, very hard to re-establish a winning attitude back in the club.

For anyone to believe that a continued a losing on field performances for a prolong period of time shows a complete lack of understanding or respect to the Supporter and Sponsors of any football club. Any true AFL standard Coach, President or Board member would understand this and would have staged a rebuild with a high priority to remain completive. Surely no one can argue that the MFC is a competitive team or even anywhere near a basic AFL standard at this time.

It would appear many of the current players are also not at AFL standard, but in this toxic environment can anyone really tell. Should the players list be reviewed by someone that is trusted by the majority of members , Supporters and Board before any major changes are made. Players are always worried about their playing future and market value so would not be willing to be seen undermining their coach as its career suicide.

The truth about what the players really think will only happen once a new Senior Coach is appointed or maybe when one of the players actually leave the Club.

Oh well at least there no way the MFC can lose this week end.

Can anyone truly make an assessment on the MFC at the moment as everywhere you look it appears to be toxic?

Although the CEO position appears to be resolved in the short term.

The President and Board do not give me any confidence about the future of the MFC.

The coaching staff appears to be on another planet and unable to turn around the on field performance. The MFC will be lucky to win another game this season, but even if it does that still less wins then in 2012. Surely the coaching/recruiting staff did not plan to loss more game then last year as there was only four of them (3 against expansion teams). I personally could not understand how anyone one could argue that at this stage of the MFC rebuild that losing more game then the year before is showing improvement. Losing is like a virus, very hard to re-establish a winning attitude back in the club.

For anyone to believe that a continued a losing on field performances for a prolong period of time shows a complete lack of understanding or respect to the Supporter and Sponsors of any football club. Any true AFL standard Coach, President or Board member would understand this and would have staged a rebuild with a high priority to remain completive. Surely no one can argue that the MFC is a competitive team or even anywhere near a basic AFL standard at this time.

It would appear many of the current players are also not at AFL standard, but in this toxic environment can anyone really tell. Should the players list be reviewed by someone that is trusted by the majority of members , Supporters and Board before any major changes are made. Players are always worried about their playing future and market value so would not be willing to be seen undermining their coach as its career suicide.

The truth about what the players really think will only happen once a new Senior Coach is appointed or maybe when one of the players actually leave the Club.

Oh well at least there no way the MFC can lose this week end.

As Monty Python said "always look on the bright side of life"

Bigfrog - Have a look at what Mclardy said at the presidents address. I thought what he said was good, we have a review of the football dept and club in general happening now by Jackson, we have a review of the board just begining and in the next few weeks we will see significant change in the structure and operations of the club.

The club is not toxic but working hard towards rejuvenation and being lead by passionate and committed demons. THEY DONT NEED SCHWARTZ AND OTHERS DESTABALISING THE CLUB.

The changes brought in with Neeld will bear fruit, the new recruitment team needs to be given more than 18 months to fix the disasters of the past. Our recruitment has been rubbish but I can see the positives from the team in place now

1. Dean Terlich (Has been solid and one of the best for the year)

2. Dean Kent (Again solid for a first year player)

3. Matt Jones (second to Nathan in my opinon, first year player)

4. Rodan and Byrnes (Both have had good and bad games but in lieu of any experienced leaders around the club have been handy short term pick ups and add value off the field as well as on)

5. Pedersen (Shown enough in the last few weeks)

6. Mitch Clarke (could be a superstar if it wasnt for injury)

7. Dawes (Intelligent articulate leader on and off the field and a big hard body)

8. Jessie Hogan (by all reports is looking like the next Johnathon Brown)

The other positive from this season is the improvement in some older players, I never thought we would see the best of Davey again and he has improved under Neeld. Nathan Jones has become a much better player under Neeld, Dont forget Jones was a whipping boy by some on this forum a couple of years ago. Garland is developing into a quality defender and his leadership has improved out of sight under guidance from Craig.

We obviously have along way to go and are behind where we probably should be but we are coming from a long way back.

The message here is back the club and give the new blood (Jackson and Freeman) time to assess the situation and make informed and considered recommendations that are obvioudsly needed. No point baying for blood and looking for short term fixes, they dont exist people, just sacking Neeld will not change a thing.

As Monty Python said "always look on the bright side of life"

Bigfrog - Have a look at what Mclardy said at the presidents address. I thought what he said was good, we have a review of the football dept and club in general happening now by Jackson, we have a review of the board just begining and in the next few weeks we will see significant change in the structure and operations of the club.

The club is not toxic but working hard towards rejuvenation and being lead by passionate and committed demons. THEY DONT NEED SCHWARTZ AND OTHERS DESTABALISING THE CLUB.

The changes brought in with Neeld will bear fruit, the new recruitment team needs to be given more than 18 months to fix the disasters of the past. Our recruitment has been rubbish but I can see the positives from the team in place now

1. Dean Terlich (Has been solid and one of the best for the year)

2. Dean Kent (Again solid for a first year player)

3. Matt Jones (second to Nathan in my opinon, first year player)

4. Rodan and Byrnes (Both have had good and bad games but in lieu of any experienced leaders around the club have been handy short term pick ups and add value off the field as well as on)

5. Pedersen (Shown enough in the last few weeks)

6. Mitch Clarke (could be a superstar if it wasnt for injury)

7. Dawes (Intelligent articulate leader on and off the field and a big hard body)

8. Jessie Hogan (by all reports is looking like the next Johnathon Brown)

The other positive from this season is the improvement in some older players, I never thought we would see the best of Davey again and he has improved under Neeld. Nathan Jones has become a much better player under Neeld, Dont forget Jones was a whipping boy by some on this forum a couple of years ago. Garland is developing into a quality defender and his leadership has improved out of sight under guidance from Craig.

We obviously have along way to go and are behind where we probably should be but we are coming from a long way back.

The message here is back the club and give the new blood (Jackson and Freeman) time to assess the situation and make informed and considered recommendations that are obvioudsly needed. No point baying for blood and looking for short term fixes, they dont exist people, just sacking Neeld will not change a thing.

Hahaha!! Improvement in 2013....Where??

1 win against GW$ in the last Quarter after they were puffed out.

Our % is 49.8.

Do not mention the word improvement & MFC in the same sentence please.

The OP is dead right & it's about time ALL supporters realized this and expected more.

Time to step aside Don.

The Ox is right.

Hahaha!! Improvement in 2013....Where??

1 win against GW$ in the last Quarter after they were puffed out.

Our % is 49.8.

Do not mention the word improvement & MFC in the same sentence please.

The OP is dead right & it's about time ALL supporters realized this and expected more.

Time to step aside Don.

The Ox is right.

Are you seriously saying the Nathan Jones has not improved and that Davey is not in better condition than the last few years under Baily?? Which of this years recruits would you not take? I agree that Byrnes and Rodan are not the future of this club but you cant run out with 22 first year players you need older heads around the place. All of the first year recruits are going okay and stack up against most first years in the comp. The bottom line is we dont have a core of quality 60-100 game players in the team or a midfield and we are going to have to either buy them or develop them and thats not Neelds fault he has inherited that.

The Ox is wrong. Neeld might not be the man for the job but he should not be sacked based on media pressure and fan hysteria. The board does need change but not a complete chuck out to bring a Hawthorn person who wants us to merge or relocate.

The process put in place by the board is the correct one and should be given time to do its job.

Are you seriously saying the Nathan Jones has not improved and that Davey is not in better condition than the last few years under Baily?? Which of this years recruits would you not take? I agree that Byrnes and Rodan are not the future of this club but you cant run out with 22 first year players you need older heads around the place. All of the first year recruits are going okay and stack up against most first years in the comp. The bottom line is we dont have a core of quality 60-100 game players in the team or a midfield and we are going to have to either buy them or develop them and thats not Neelds fault he has inherited that.

The Ox is wrong. Neeld might not be the man for the job but he should not be sacked based on media pressure and fan hysteria. The board does need change but not a complete chuck out to bring a Hawthorn person who wants us to merge or relocate.

The process put in place by the board is the correct one and should be given time to do its job.

THE OX IS RIGHT.

Why would I care that a comedy show say about life?

I love the Ox, he put his body on the line many times for the MFC.

I see your mistake, you been listening to Don. He has no idea about running a successful AFL club.

Unfortunately I hear these comments many time before. After each flogging my team takes I become less and less inclined to listen.

I had sat back for many years waiting for the MFC to turn thing around on the field. I am still waiting.

Anyone can find small insignificant events or trends if they look hard enough, but it does not change the basic fundamentals. The Club has been run by a bunch of Clowns. They may have the best interest of the Club at heart, but that just shows how out of their depth they are.

If things are going so well, why are members and supporters staying away from games on mass? Why is the MFC losing by greater margins then ever before?

The simple fact is the best statistic anyone can use in football is the final score. In that area the MFC is terrible. No one has ever won a Grand Final by scoring less then their opponent.

I could go on and on about this topic but I feel this will not change your point of view, so lets agree to disagree.

Time will tell which of us is right!

As Monty Python said "always look on the bright side of life"

Bigfrog - Have a look at what Mclardy said at the presidents address. I thought what he said was good, we have a review of the football dept and club in general happening now by Jackson, we have a review of the board just begining and in the next few weeks we will see significant change in the structure and operations of the club.

The club is not toxic but working hard towards rejuvenation and being lead by passionate and committed demons. THEY DONT NEED SCHWARTZ AND OTHERS DESTABALISING THE CLUB.

The changes brought in with Neeld will bear fruit, the new recruitment team needs to be given more than 18 months to fix the disasters of the past. Our recruitment has been rubbish but I can see the positives from the team in place now

1. Dean Terlich (Has been solid and one of the best for the year)

2. Dean Kent (Again solid for a first year player)

3. Matt Jones (second to Nathan in my opinon, first year player)

4. Rodan and Byrnes (Both have had good and bad games but in lieu of any experienced leaders around the club have been handy short term pick ups and add value off the field as well as on)

5. Pedersen (Shown enough in the last few weeks)

6. Mitch Clarke (could be a superstar if it wasnt for injury)

7. Dawes (Intelligent articulate leader on and off the field and a big hard body)

8. Jessie Hogan (by all reports is looking like the next Johnathon Brown)

The other positive from this season is the improvement in some older players, I never thought we would see the best of Davey again and he has improved under Neeld. Nathan Jones has become a much better player under Neeld, Dont forget Jones was a whipping boy by some on this forum a couple of years ago. Garland is developing into a quality defender and his leadership has improved out of sight under guidance from Craig.

We obviously have along way to go and are behind where we probably should be but we are coming from a long way back.

The message here is back the club and give the new blood (Jackson and Freeman) time to assess the situation and make informed and considered recommendations that are obvioudsly needed. No point baying for blood and looking for short term fixes, they dont exist people, just sacking Neeld will not change a thing.